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From: "Durrant, Paul" <pdurrant@amazon.com>
To: "Jürgen Groß" <jgross@suse.com>,
	"Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	"Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
Subject: RE: [Xen-devel] [PATCH 2/4] xenbus: limit when state is forced to closed
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 12:03:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3412e42d13224b6786613e58dc189ebf@EX13D32EUC003.ant.amazon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b8a138ad-5770-65fa-f368-f7b4063702fa@suse.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jürgen Groß <jgross@suse.com>
> Sent: 09 December 2019 11:55
> To: Roger Pau Monné <roger.pau@citrix.com>; Durrant, Paul
> <pdurrant@amazon.com>
> Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org; Stefano
> Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>; Boris Ostrovsky
> <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
> Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH 2/4] xenbus: limit when state is forced to
> closed
> 
> On 09.12.19 12:39, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 05, 2019 at 02:01:21PM +0000, Paul Durrant wrote:
> >> Only force state to closed in the case when the toolstack may need to
> >> clean up. This can be detected by checking whether the state in
> xenstore
> >> has been set to closing prior to device removal.
> >
> > I'm not sure I see the point of this, I would expect that a failure to
> > probe or the removal of the device would leave the xenbus state as
> > closed, which is consistent with the actual driver state.
> >
> > Can you explain what's the benefit of leaving a device without a
> > driver in such unknown state?
> 
> And more concerning: did you check that no frontend/backend is
> relying on the closed state to be visible without closing having been
> set before?

Blkfront doesn't seem to mind and I believe the Windows PV drivers cope, but I don't really understand the comment since this patch is actually removing a case where the backend transitions directly to closed.

  Paul

> 
> 
> Juergen


  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-09 12:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-05 14:01 [PATCH 0/4] xen-blkback: support live update Paul Durrant
2019-12-05 14:01 ` [PATCH 1/4] xenbus: move xenbus_dev_shutdown() into frontend code Paul Durrant
2019-12-09 11:33   ` Jürgen Groß
2019-12-09 11:55     ` Durrant, Paul
2019-12-09 11:57       ` Jürgen Groß
2019-12-05 14:01 ` [PATCH 2/4] xenbus: limit when state is forced to closed Paul Durrant
2019-12-09 11:39   ` [Xen-devel] " Roger Pau Monné
2019-12-09 11:55     ` Jürgen Groß
2019-12-09 12:03       ` Durrant, Paul [this message]
2019-12-09 12:08         ` Jürgen Groß
2019-12-09 12:19           ` Durrant, Paul
2019-12-09 13:38             ` Jürgen Groß
2019-12-09 14:06               ` Durrant, Paul
2019-12-09 14:09                 ` Jürgen Groß
2019-12-09 14:23                   ` Durrant, Paul
2019-12-09 14:41                     ` Jürgen Groß
2019-12-09 14:43                       ` Durrant, Paul
2019-12-09 12:01     ` Durrant, Paul
2019-12-09 12:25       ` Roger Pau Monné
2019-12-09 12:40         ` Durrant, Paul
2019-12-09 14:28           ` Roger Pau Monné
2019-12-09 14:41             ` Durrant, Paul
2019-12-09 15:13               ` Roger Pau Monné
2019-12-09 16:26                 ` Durrant, Paul
2019-12-09 17:17                   ` Roger Pau Monné
2019-12-09 17:23                     ` Durrant, Paul
2019-12-05 14:01 ` [PATCH 3/4] xen/interface: don't discard pending work in FRONT/BACK_RING_ATTACH Paul Durrant
2019-12-09 11:41   ` [Xen-devel] " Roger Pau Monné
2019-12-09 11:52     ` Jürgen Groß
2019-12-09 12:50       ` Durrant, Paul
2019-12-09 13:55   ` Jürgen Groß
2019-12-09 16:38     ` Durrant, Paul
2019-12-10 11:42       ` Jürgen Groß
2019-12-05 14:01 ` [PATCH 4/4] xen-blkback: support dynamic unbind/bind Paul Durrant
2019-12-09 12:17   ` Roger Pau Monné
2019-12-09 12:24     ` Durrant, Paul
2019-12-09 13:57   ` Jürgen Groß
2019-12-09 14:01     ` Durrant, Paul

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