From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Tim Murray <timmurray@google.com>,
Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Daniel Colascione <dancol@google.com>,
Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@google.com>,
oleksandr@redhat.com, hdanton@sina.com, lizeb@google.com,
"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/5] mm: introduce MADV_COLD
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 06:13:36 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <343599f9-3d99-b74f-1732-368e584fa5ef@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190627115405.255259-2-minchan@kernel.org>
On 6/27/19 4:54 AM, Minchan Kim wrote:
> This patch introduces the new MADV_COLD hint to madvise(2) syscall.
> MADV_COLD can be used by a process to mark a memory range as not expected
> to be used in the near future. The hint can help kernel in deciding which
> pages to evict early during memory pressure.
>
> It works for every LRU pages like MADV_[DONTNEED|FREE]. IOW, It moves
>
> active file page -> inactive file LRU
> active anon page -> inacdtive anon LRU
Is the LRU behavior part of the interface or the implementation?
I ask because we've got something in between tossing something down the
LRU and swapping it: page migration. Specifically, on a system with
slower memory media (like persistent memory) we just migrate a page
instead of discarding it at reclaim:
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20190321200157.29678-4-keith.busch@intel.com/
So let's say I have a page I want to evict from DRAM to the next slower
tier of memory. Do I use MADV_COLD or MADV_PAGEOUT? If the LRU
behavior is part of the interface itself, then MADV_COLD doesn't work.
Do you think we'll need a third MADV_ flag for our automatic migration
behavior? MADV_REALLYCOLD? MADV_MIGRATEOUT?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-06-27 13:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-06-27 11:54 [PATCH v3 0/5] Introduce MADV_COLD and MADV_PAGEOUT Minchan Kim
2019-06-27 11:54 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] mm: introduce MADV_COLD Minchan Kim
2019-06-27 13:13 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2019-06-27 14:02 ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-27 14:36 ` Dave Hansen
2019-06-27 14:53 ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-27 23:56 ` Minchan Kim
2019-07-01 7:35 ` Minchan Kim
2019-07-09 9:19 ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-27 23:46 ` Minchan Kim
2019-06-27 11:54 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] mm: change PAGEREF_RECLAIM_CLEAN with PAGE_REFRECLAIM Minchan Kim
2019-06-27 11:54 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] mm: account nr_isolated_xxx in [isolate|putback]_lru_page Minchan Kim
2019-07-09 9:38 ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-27 11:54 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] mm: introduce MADV_PAGEOUT Minchan Kim
2019-07-09 9:55 ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-10 10:48 ` Minchan Kim
2019-07-10 11:16 ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-10 11:53 ` Minchan Kim
2019-07-10 19:47 ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-11 0:25 ` Minchan Kim
2019-06-27 11:54 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] mm: factor out pmd young/dirty bit handling and THP split Minchan Kim
2019-07-09 14:10 ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-10 10:56 ` Minchan Kim
2019-06-27 18:06 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Introduce MADV_COLD and MADV_PAGEOUT Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-06-27 23:12 ` Minchan Kim
2019-07-01 7:38 ` Minchan Kim
2019-07-01 10:22 ` Michal Hocko
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