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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org>,
	Darren Hart <dvhart@linux.intel.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Alexandre Courbot <gnurou@gmail.com>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	Bryan Wu <cooloney@gmail.com>, Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
	Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 07/16] gpio: Add support for unified device properties interface
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:08:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3464697.XblUcyRfDp@vostro.rjw.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4515093.TGIQh7cBOD@wuerfel>

On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 09:55:12 AM Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Tuesday 23 September 2014 22:47:36 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > Quite frankly, I'm not sure what you're asking for.
> > 
> > It seems to mean "I kind of don't like the current implementation", but
> > then the last part is quite unclear to me.  Are you suggesting to add more
> > "if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_OF) && pdev->dev.of_node) etc" type of checks to
> > device drivers?  That I'd like to avoid to be honest.
> 
> No, that is not what I want. Device drivers should ideally call interfaces
> that just take a 'struct device' or 'struct platform_device' pointer,
> and those should be implemented in an appropriate way.

But then you have drivers that access properties of their child nodes which
have no corresponding struct device(s).

> > Instead of the current proposal we can introduce something like
> > 
> > int device_get_child_property(struct device *dev, void *child_node,
> >                               const char *propname, void **valptr);
> > 
> > (and analogously for device_read_property*) and use that in the drivers that
> > need to iterate over child nodes of a device.  Quite along the lines of what
> > Dmitry is suggesting.
> > 
> > Then, fn() in acpi_for_each_child_node() (and the of_ counterpart of it)
> > would become
> > 
> > int (*fn)(struct device *dev, void *child_node, void *data)
> > 
> > and so on.
> > 
> > Would you prefer that?
> 
> I must still be missing part of what you are trying to achieve above.
> We definitely need an interface to get properties from the device itself,
> like
> 
> int device_get_property(struct device *dev, const char *propname, void **valptr);
> 
> (whatever valptr ends up being, that would be a separate discussion).
> 
> As soon as it comes to devices that have child nodes, I don't see a
> necessity to have a generic abstraction for them, as this is typically
> only done for some of the more obscure bindings, or for child nodes that
> are defined in a subsystem-wide binding rather than a device private
> binding.

Well, I don't really agree here.

We can demonstrably reduce code duplication (and therefore complexity too) in
at least two drivers by doing that at a reasonably low cost, which is
simply exposing the API for child nodes and adding helpers for iterating
over them.

We don't have to use struct fw_dev_node (or similar) for that if that's what
bothers you, but in my opinion something like "get me a property of this thing
which may be either a device tree node or an ACPI object" (ie. what the current
dev_node_get_property() does) is more straightforwad than "get me a property
of that child of this device which may be either a device tree node or an ACPI
object" (ie. what device_get_child_property() as described above would do).

> For the former case, I think they are indeed better left in drivers that
> actively know the difference between DT and ACPI, and that don't necessarily
> use the same binding for both. In the latter case, I'd leave the
> implementation up to subsystem code, which again would know what
> interface it is using.

The case in question is drivers that need not know the difference between DT and
ACPI and do use the same binding for both.  It seems quite clear what needs to
be done in the other cases.

-- 
I speak only for myself.
Rafael J. Wysocki, Intel Open Source Technology Center.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-24 13:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-16 11:52 [RFC PATCH v2 00/16] Add ACPI _DSD and unified device properties support Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/16] ACPI: Add support for device specific properties Mika Westerberg
2014-10-06 13:50   ` Grant Likely
2014-10-06 14:32     ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-06 16:25       ` Darren Hart
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/16] Driver core: Unified device properties interface for platform firmware Mika Westerberg
2014-09-17 18:28   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/16] ACPI: Allow drivers to match using Device Tree compatible property Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/16] ACPI: Document ACPI device specific properties Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/16] mfd: Add ACPI support Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 21:54   ` Lee Jones
2014-09-24 12:00   ` Lee Jones
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/16] gpio / ACPI: Add support for _DSD device properties Mika Westerberg
2014-09-23 15:27   ` Linus Walleij
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/16] gpio: Add support for unified device properties interface Mika Westerberg
2014-09-23 15:25   ` Linus Walleij
2014-09-23 15:45     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-23 15:52       ` Mika Westerberg
2014-09-23 16:17         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-09-23 20:31           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-23 16:25       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-23 16:26         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-23 20:47           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-24  7:55             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-24 14:08               ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2014-09-23 21:15           ` Darren Hart
2014-09-24  9:12             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-24  9:38               ` Mika Westerberg
2014-09-24 14:11                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-26  3:21               ` Darren Hart
2014-09-26  8:36                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-26 14:42                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-07 13:37                 ` Linus Walleij
2014-10-07 15:37                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2014-10-07 23:57                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/16] gpio: sch: Consolidate core and resume banks Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/16] leds: leds-gpio: Add support for GPIO descriptors Mika Westerberg
2014-09-19  8:18   ` Alexandre Courbot
2014-09-24  7:55   ` Linus Walleij
2014-09-24  9:42     ` Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/16] leds: leds-gpio: Make use of device property API Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/16] leds: leds-gpio: Add ACPI probing support Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/16] input: gpio_keys_polled - Add support for GPIO descriptors Mika Westerberg
2014-09-19  8:22   ` Alexandre Courbot
2014-09-24  8:02   ` Linus Walleij
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/16] input: gpio_keys_polled - Make use of device property API Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/16] input: gpio_keys_polled - Add ACPI probing support Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/16] misc: at25: Make use of device property API Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/16] misc: at25: Add ACPI probing support Mika Westerberg
2014-09-21  0:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/16] Add ACPI _DSD and unified device properties support Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-24  8:34   ` Lee Jones
2014-09-24  9:45     ` Mika Westerberg
2014-09-22 23:29 ` Bryan Wu
2014-10-01  2:08 ` [PATCH v3 00/15] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  2:08   ` [PATCH v3 01/15] ACPI: Add support for device specific properties Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  7:38     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01  2:10   ` [PATCH v3 02/15] Driver core: Unified device properties interface for platform firmware Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  7:47     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01 22:09       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01 23:01         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-02  7:46         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-02 16:50           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-02  0:03     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-01  2:10   ` [PATCH v3 03/15] ACPI: Allow drivers to match using Device Tree compatible property Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  7:48     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-03 13:43     ` Mark Rutland
2014-10-03 17:59       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-10-04  0:02         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  2:11   ` [PATCH v3 04/15] ACPI: Document ACPI device specific properties Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  7:59     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-02 10:41       ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-02 11:51         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-02 12:15           ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-02 12:46             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-02 13:36               ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-02 14:29                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-02 14:38                   ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-02 14:55                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-03 13:56                       ` Mark Rutland
2014-10-03 15:02                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-03 23:58                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-04 10:56                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-05 21:40                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-03  2:03                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-03  8:12                   ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-03 13:58                   ` Mark Rutland
2014-10-03 14:38                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-03 14:35                       ` Mark Rutland
2014-10-04  0:13                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-04 10:59                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-05 22:26                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-03 13:48             ` Mark Rutland
2014-10-04  0:16               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  2:12   ` [PATCH v3 05/15] gpio / ACPI: Add support for _DSD device properties Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  8:03     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-05 10:36       ` Alexandre Courbot
2014-10-05 21:20         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  2:14   ` [PATCH v3 06/15] gpio: Support for unified device properties interface Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  2:15   ` [PATCH v3 07/15] gpio: sch: Consolidate core and resume banks Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  2:15   ` [PATCH v3 08/15] leds: leds-gpio: Add support for GPIO descriptors Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  8:05     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01  2:16   ` [PATCH v3 09/15] leds: leds-gpio: Make use of device property API Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-03 14:07     ` Mark Rutland
2014-10-04  0:18       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  2:17   ` [PATCH v3 10/15] leds: leds-gpio: Add ACPI probing support Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  8:13     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01  9:13       ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-01 10:01         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01 11:59           ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-01 13:52             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01 14:04               ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-01 14:14                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-02  9:55                   ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-02 10:44                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01 16:30       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-10-01 18:11         ` Darren Hart
2014-10-01 18:21           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-10-01 18:22           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01  2:17   ` [PATCH v3 11/15] input: gpio_keys_polled - Add support for GPIO descriptors Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  8:13     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01  2:20   ` [PATCH v3 12/15] input: gpio_keys_polled - Make use of device property API Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  2:20   ` [PATCH v3 13/15] input: gpio_keys_polled - Add ACPI probing support Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  7:48     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-10-01  9:15       ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-01 16:28         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-10-02  9:53           ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-01  2:21   ` [PATCH v3 14/15] misc: at25: Make use of device property API Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  8:14     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01  2:22   ` [PATCH v3 15/15] misc: at25: Add ACPI probing support Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  8:15     ` Arnd Bergmann

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