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From: Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>
To: Kohei Enju <enju.kohei@fujitsu.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, maz@kernel.org,
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	Soby Mathew <Soby.Mathew@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v22 06/10] firmware: arm_rmm: Ensure the RMM has GPT entries for memory
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2026 14:35:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <34bf0c98-35b1-4402-842f-a100245cb9a7@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <atiyZ7_S7aBxowIQ@FCCLS0092175.localdomain>

Hi

On 21/10/2026 14:07, Kohei Enju wrote:
> Hi Suzuki,
> 
> I've tested this series and found a possible TF-RMM issue.
> Please  below.
> 
> On 10/02 07:15, Suzuki K Poulose wrote:
>> From: Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>
>>
>> The RMM maintains the state of all the granules in the system to make
>> sure that the host is abiding by the rules. This state can be maintained
>> at different granularity, per page (TRACKING_FINE) or per region
>> (TRACKING_COARSE or TRACKING_INTERMEDIATE). The region size depends on the
>> underlying "RMI_GRANULE_SIZE". For a "coarse"/"intermediate" region,
>> all pages in the region must be of the same state, this implies we need to
>> have "fine" tracking for DRAM, so that we can delegate individual pages.
>>
>> For now we only support a statically carved out memory for tracking
>> granules for the "fine" regions. This can be extended in the future to
>> allow modifying the tracking granularity and remove the need for a
>> static allocation by the firmware.
>>
>> Similarly, the firmware may create L0 GPT entries describing the total
>> address space. But if we change the "PAS" (Physical Address Space) of a
>> granule, then the firmware may need to create L1 tables to track the PAS
>> at a finer granularity. Linux therefore checks if the platform firmware
>> manages the PAR region. i.e., the firmware is in charge of managing the
>> L1 GPTs (creation and the required memory for the GPT tables - via static
>> carveouts) without host intervention. Support for dynamic GPT creation by
>> the host will be added later.
>>
>> If the firmware requires us to manage the tracking or GPT memory,
>> deactivate the RMM and reclaim any memory donated at RMM activation.
>>
>> Apply the same checks when hotplugged memory is brought online.
>>
>> Reviewed-by: Jonathan Cameron <jonathan.cameron@oss.qualcomm.com>
>> Reviewed-by: Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>
>> Reviewed-by: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
>> Tested-by: Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>
>> Co-developed-by: Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>
>> ---
> [...]
>> +/*
>> + * We do not support creating L1 GPTs yet. So, make sure that all the regions
>> + * are managed by the firmware.
>> + */
>> +static int rmi_verify_gpt_firmware_managed(phys_addr_t start, phys_addr_t end)
>> +{
>> +	unsigned long l0gpt_sz;
>> +	unsigned long next, par_state;
>> +
>> +	l0gpt_sz = 1UL << (30 + FIELD_GET(RMI_FEATURE_REGISTER_1_L0GPTSZ,
>> +					  rmi_feat_reg(1)));
>> +	start = ALIGN_DOWN(start, l0gpt_sz);
>> +	end = ALIGN(end, l0gpt_sz);
>> +
>> +	while (start < end) {
>> +		long ret = rmi_gpt_info(start, end, &next, &par_state);
>> +
>> +		if (ret != RMI_SUCCESS) {
>> +			pr_err("RMI_GPT_INFO failed for %llx-%llx: (%ld)\n",
>> +				start, end, ret);
>> +			return -ENXIO;
>> +		}
>> +
>> +		if (WARN_ON(next <= start))
>> +			return -ENXIO;
>> +
>> +		if (par_state != RMI_GPT_PAR_PLAT) {
>> +			pr_err("GPT for the region is not managed by firmware %llx-%lx\n",
>> +				start, next);
>> +			return -ENODEV;
> 
> When system RAM starts at a non-L0GPTSZ-aligned address, the alignment
> in rmi_verify_gpt_firmware_managed() may cause the queried L0GPT range
> to include a memory hole.

> 
> On out platform, the relevant memory layout is:
> 
>      800c0000000-800dc3fffff : memory hole
>      800dc400000-82fffffffff : System RAM
> 

Thanks for the report.

> Consequently, Linux queries the following L0GPT range:
> 
>      800c0000000-80100000000
> 
> The query fails with RMI_GPT_PAR_RESERVED:
> 
>      [    8.551855] GPT for the region is not managed by firmware 800c0000000-80100000000
> 
> and arm64_init_rmi() subsequently fails.
> 
> As I understand it, smc_gpt_info() in TF-RMM checks only the beginning
> of the aligned L0GPT range. Since that address is in the hole, the whole
> range is reported as RMI_GPT_PAR_RESERVED, even though it contains
> platform-managed System RAM.
> 
> I believe this should be addressed in TF-RMM. Do you have any thoughts
> on the expected RMI_GPT_INFO behavior in this case?

I believe the RMM should report a value that represents the situation
better. In this case, there is a hole, and some conventional memory
areas. For the conventional memory, the RMM has to manage the GPTs.
(This applies to the tf-RMM implementation of TRACKING Granule state
too. It only looks at the first granule and reports the type of memory.)

RMI_GPT_PAR_RESERVED is not accurate as the memory region is not
reserved, unless it is reserved for firmware (in which case the
memory description is wrong).

I would say RMI_GPT_PAR_PLAT  is accurate if the L1GPT exists, as the
  region covered by the L0GPT has some memory that are delegable.

Otherwise it must be reported as RMI_GPT_HOST_NOT_CREATED.

The information that a given memory region is not "memory" (i.e. hole)
is basically TRACKING_STATE returned as RMI_MEM_CATEGORY_NONE


> 
> As a side note, we tested this series and the v23 integration branch
> with a Linux-side workaround to avoid the problem above, and we have not
> observed any other major issues. Sorry for the delay in testing this
> series.

Thanks for the testing !

Suzuki
> 
> Thanks,
> Kohei
> 
>> +		}
>> +		start = next;
>> +	}
>> +
>> +	return 0;
>> +}


  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-21 13:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-02  6:14 [PATCH v22 00/10] firmware: arm_rmm: Add RMM v2.0 base RMI support Suzuki K Poulose
2026-10-02  6:14 ` [PATCH v22 01/10] firmware: arm_rmm: Add SMC definitions for calling the RMM Suzuki K Poulose
2026-10-02  6:14 ` [PATCH v22 02/10] firmware: arm_rmm: Check for RMI support at init Suzuki K Poulose
2026-10-13  3:53   ` Gavin Shan
2026-10-13  9:58     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-10-14  7:26       ` Gavin Shan
2026-10-14  9:19         ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-10-14 10:58           ` Gavin Shan
2026-10-14 11:06             ` Sudeep Holla
2026-10-14 11:06             ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-10-14 12:05               ` Sudeep Holla
2026-10-14 12:40                 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-10-02  6:14 ` [PATCH v22 03/10] firmware: arm_rmm: Configure the RMM with the host's page size Suzuki K Poulose
2026-10-02  6:15 ` [PATCH v22 04/10] firmware: arm_rmm: Add support for SRO Suzuki K Poulose
2026-10-02  6:15 ` [PATCH v22 05/10] firmware: arm_rmm: Activate the RMM Suzuki K Poulose
2026-10-02  6:15 ` [PATCH v22 06/10] firmware: arm_rmm: Ensure the RMM has GPT entries for memory Suzuki K Poulose
2026-10-21 13:07   ` Kohei Enju
2026-10-21 13:35     ` Suzuki K Poulose [this message]
2026-10-21 14:00       ` Kohei Enju
2026-10-02  6:15 ` [PATCH v22 07/10] kernel: hibernate: Add an arch hook for preventing hiberation Suzuki K Poulose
2026-10-02 11:03   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-10-02 15:29     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-10-12 19:11     ` Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)
2026-10-02 13:32   ` Sudeep Holla
2026-10-02  6:15 ` [PATCH v22 08/10] arm64: Block hibernate and kexec while RMM is active Suzuki K Poulose
2026-10-02  6:15 ` [PATCH v22 09/10] firmware: arm_rmm: Add wrappers for Realm related RMI commands Suzuki K Poulose
2026-10-02 11:05   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-10-02 15:28     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-10-02  6:15 ` [PATCH v22 10/10] firmware: arm_rmm: hotplug: Skip memory added to ZONE_MOVABLE Suzuki K Poulose
2026-10-02  7:57   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-02 18:49 ` [PATCH v22 00/10] firmware: arm_rmm: Add RMM v2.0 base RMI support Catalin Marinas
2026-10-03  5:57   ` Suzuki K Poulose

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