From: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
To: Quentin Perret <qperret@google.com>, Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan94@gmail.com>
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
vincent.guittot@linaro.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, bristot@redhat.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, quentin.perret@arm.com,
zhang.lyra@gmail.com, xuewyan@foxmail.com,
Pierre Gondois <pierre.gondois@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: use signed long when compute energy delta in eas
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 20:07:34 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <34ce11ad-9c20-7ba7-90d8-4830725bf38a@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YGLzQAvVqlrKb8AB@google.com>
+cc: Pierre Gondois <pierre.gondois@arm.com>
On 30/03/2021 11:45, Quentin Perret wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tuesday 30 Mar 2021 at 13:21:54 (+0800), Xuewen Yan wrote:
>> From: Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan@unisoc.com>
>>
>> now the energy delta compute as follow:
>>
>> base_energy_pd = compute_energy(p, -1, pd);
>> --->Traverse all CPUs in pd
>> --->em_pd_energy()
>> ----------------------------------------------------- \
>> search for the max_sapre_cap_cpu \
>> --------------------------------- search time
>> cur_delta = compute_energy(p, max_spare_cap_cpu, pd); /
>> --->Traverse all CPUs in pd /
>> ---------------------------------------------------- /
>> --->em_pd_energy()
>> cur_delta -= base_energy_pd;
>>
>> During the search_time, or when calculate the cpu_util in
>> compute_energy(), there may occurred task dequeue or cpu_util change,
>> it may cause the cur_energy < base_energy_pd, so the cur_delta
>> would be negative. But the cur_delta is unsigned long, at this time,
>> the cur_delta would always bigger than best_delta of last pd.
>>
>> Change the vars to signed long.
>
> Is that really helping though?
>
> Yes you will not overflow, but the decision is still 'wrong' if the util
> values are not stable for the entire wake-up. I think folks on the Arm
> side had patches to try and cache the util values upfront, and then use
> them throughout feec() and compute_energy(), which I think would be a
> better fix.
>
> Dietmar, wdyt?
Yes, we have some patches from Pierre Gondois which introduce a pd cache
to store the CPU utilization values so they can be reused for 'cpu !=
dst_cpu' calculations within find_energy_efficient_cpu() (feec()).
We did run them in our Jan 2021 EAS integration:
https://gitlab.arm.com/linux-arm/linux-power/-/commits/eas/next/integration-20210129
sched: Allocate pd_cache when EAS is enabled
sched/fair: Use pd_cache to speed up find_energy_efficient_cpu()
We haven't posted them since we're still looking for a story to justify
the extra complexity. The experiments on Arm64 Juno (2 big, 4 little
CPUs) showed 1-2% failure due to changes of CPU utilization values
during feec(). There was a 5% (big CPU)-10% (little CPU) runtime
reduction for feec() with the patches.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-04-01 18:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-03-30 5:21 Xuewen Yan
2021-03-30 9:45 ` Quentin Perret
2021-04-01 18:07 ` Dietmar Eggemann [this message]
2021-04-06 10:59 ` Xuewen Yan
2021-04-07 14:11 ` Pierre
2021-04-08 5:41 ` Xuewen Yan
2021-04-08 9:33 ` Pierre
2021-04-09 2:20 ` Xuewen Yan
2021-04-12 10:26 ` Pierre Gondois
2021-04-12 10:52 ` Xuewen Yan
2021-04-12 17:14 ` Pierre Gondois
2021-04-13 1:50 ` Xuewen Yan
2021-04-13 10:58 ` Pierre Gondois
2021-04-13 11:59 ` Xuewen Yan
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