From: u3557@miso.sublimeip.com
To: "Oleg Nesterov" <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: "Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
"Frederic Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
"Amnon Shiloh" <u3557@miso.sublimeip.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 10:16:48 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3501c254c970c4dbd933022651622f79.squirrel@mail.sublimeip.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121120183243.GA31290@redhat.com>
Hi Oleg,
> Or. Perhaps we can define TRAP_VSYSCALL and change emulate_vsyscall() to
> do
>
>
> if (current->ptrace && test_thread_flag(TIF_SYSCALL_TRACE))
> send_sigtrap(TRAP_VSYSCALL, ...);
>
> if it returns true?
>
I wish it were possible, but the vsyscall page is entered in user-mode,
where it is not possible to read either "current" or the per-thread flags.
One nice alternative, however, is to take away the execute permission from
the vsyscall page of the traced process, so it will incur a SIGSEGV (which
the ptracer can easily handle and cancel).
The drawbacks of this nice-to-have alternative are:
1) It may require a bigger patch.
2) It needs to use a separate ptrace option, because current applications
that use PTRACE_SYSCALL (or PTRACE_SYSEMU), including "strace", will not
be aware of this new feature, so they can be broken.
> Yes, the tracee won't report _before_ it calls the function, but perhaps
> this is enough? Amnon?
The vsyscall page was designed in order to avoid user/kernel context
switches, which is possible when a system-call is only reading kernel
global information, not modifying any. In most cases therefore (with
a few exceptions, such as when the hardware clock is broken or
misconfigured), system-calls in the vsyscall page never invoke the kernel
at all - so no trap would be generated either before or after.
Best Regards,
Amnon.
> On 11/20, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>>
>> On 11/19, Steven Rostedt wrote:
>> >
>> > Is this really what we want?
>>
>> I am not sure, that is why I am asking.
>
> Yes.
>
> And,
>
>> Well yes, with the new implementation __vsyscall_page simply does
>> syscall, so I guess (say) strace will "just work". But, afaics, only
>> if vsyscall_mode == NATIVE.
>>
>> So perhaps bp in vsyscall_page still makes sense...
>
> Or. Perhaps we can define TRAP_VSYSCALL and change emulate_vsyscall() to
> do
>
>
> if (current->ptrace && test_thread_flag(TIF_SYSCALL_TRACE))
> send_sigtrap(TRAP_VSYSCALL, ...);
>
> if it returns true?
>
> This way the debugger doesn't need to play with the debug registers,
> it can use ptrace(PTRACE_SYSCALL). The tracee will report SIGTRAP after
> vsyscall, debugger can detect this case looking at info->si_code.
>
> Yes, the tracee won't report _before_ it calls the function, but perhaps
> this is enough? Amnon?
>
> Oleg.
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-11-20 23:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-11-09 18:29 Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-09 18:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-19 17:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-19 18:25 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-11-20 10:33 ` u3557
2012-11-20 15:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-20 15:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-11-20 18:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-20 23:16 ` u3557 [this message]
2012-11-21 14:16 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-21 17:30 ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-22 16:12 ` vdso && cr (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check) Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-22 20:57 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2012-11-23 0:20 ` vdso && cr (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-23 17:45 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-24 12:47 ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-23 17:42 ` vdso && cr (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check) Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-23 9:14 ` arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-23 16:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-23 17:05 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-24 14:14 ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-24 13:45 ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-25 22:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-25 23:48 ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-12-02 19:30 ` PTRACE_SYSCALL && vsyscall (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check) Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-02 23:54 ` u3557
2012-12-04 17:59 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-04 22:44 ` u3557
2013-01-08 17:08 ` Pedro Alves
2013-01-09 17:52 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-10 6:54 ` u3557
2013-01-12 18:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-14 2:31 ` u3557
2013-01-14 16:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-18 1:39 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-18 5:44 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Randy Dunlap
2013-02-18 15:21 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Steven Rostedt
2013-02-18 16:33 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-18 19:49 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Steven Rostedt
2013-02-19 6:25 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-20 8:39 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-02-20 9:38 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-20 10:51 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-02-20 11:16 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-21 7:46 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-21 8:00 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-02-21 8:03 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-21 8:09 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-02-21 22:18 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Andrew Morton
2013-02-21 22:42 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-02-22 1:18 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-22 14:23 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Denys Vlasenko
2012-12-05 9:29 ` PTRACE_SYSCALL && vsyscall (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check) Jan Kratochvil
2012-12-05 13:14 ` u3557
2012-11-26 9:44 ` vdso && cr " Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-26 12:27 ` Andrey Wagin
2012-11-26 12:55 ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-26 14:18 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-26 14:26 ` vdso && cr (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-26 14:41 ` vdso && cr Cyrill Gorcunov
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