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From: Cristian Ciocaltea <cristian.ciocaltea@collabora.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Emil Renner Berthing <kernel@esmil.dk>,
	Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	Giuseppe Cavallaro <peppe.cavallaro@st.com>,
	Alexandre Torgue <alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com>,
	Jose Abreu <joabreu@synopsys.com>,
	Maxime Coquelin <mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com>,
	Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	Sagar Kadam <sagar.kadam@sifive.com>,
	Yanhong Wang <yanhong.wang@starfivetech.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kernel@collabora.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/12] dt-bindings: net: Add StarFive JH7100 SoC
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2023 17:25:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <350b400f-210a-a2cf-0828-25beb1b93a43@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y++BZWhJm1LpdrA9@lunn.ch>

On 2/17/23 15:30, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>>> I would actually say it shows we don't understand what is going on
>>> with delays. "rgmii" is not every often the correct value. The fact it
>>> works suggests the MAC is adding delays.
>>>
>>> What value are you using for starfive,gtxclk-dlychain ?
>>
>> This is set to '4' in patch 12/12.
>>
>>> Try 0 and then "rgmii-id"
>>
>> I made some more tests and it seems the only stable configuration is "rgmii"
>> with "starfive,gtxclk-dlychain" set to 4:
>>
>> phy-mode | dlychain | status
>> ---------+----------+--------------------------------------------
>> rgmii    |        4 | OK (no issues observed)
>> rgmii-id |        4 | BROKEN (errors reported [1])
>> rgmii    |        0 | UNRELIABLE (no errors, but frequent stalls)
>> rgmii-id |        0 | BROKEN (errors reported)
>>
>> [1] Reported errors in case of BROKEN status:
>> $ grep '' /sys/class/net/eth0/statistics/* | grep -v ':0$'
> 
> Thanks for the testing.
> 
> So it seems like something is adding delays when it probably should
> not. Ideally we want to know what.
> 
> There is a danger here, something which has happened in the past. A
> PHY which ignored "rgmii" and actually did power on defaults which was
> "rgmii-id". As a result, lots of boards put "rmgii" in there DT blob,
> which 'worked'. Until a board came along which really did need
> "rgmii". The developer bringing that board up debugged the PHY, found
> the problem and made it respect "rgmii" so their board worked. And the
> fix broke a number of 'working' boards which had the wrong "rgmii"
> instead of "rgmii-id".

Thanks for the heads-up.

> So you have a choice. Go with 4 and "rgmii", but put in a big fat
> warning, "Works somehow but is technically wrong and will probably
> break sometime in the future". Or try to understand what is really
> going on here, were are the delays coming from, and fix the issue.
> 
>        Andrew

I will try to analyze this further.

Regards,
Cristian

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-17 15:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-11  3:18 [PATCH 00/12] Enable networking support for " Cristian Ciocaltea
2023-02-11  3:18 ` [PATCH 01/12] dt-bindings: riscv: sifive-ccache: Add compatible " Cristian Ciocaltea
2023-02-13  9:20   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-02-14 20:40   ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-15 13:11     ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-03-20 23:46     ` Palmer Dabbelt
2023-02-11  3:18 ` [PATCH 02/12] dt-bindings: riscv: sifive-ccache: Add 'uncached-offset' property Cristian Ciocaltea
2023-02-13  9:23   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-02-14 17:58     ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2023-02-16 21:53   ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-11  3:18 ` [PATCH 03/12] soc: sifive: ccache: Add StarFive JH7100 support Cristian Ciocaltea
2023-03-06 23:32   ` Conor Dooley
2023-03-06 23:46     ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2023-02-11  3:18 ` [PATCH 04/12] soc: sifive: ccache: Add non-coherent DMA handling Cristian Ciocaltea
2023-02-16 18:50   ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-19 21:32     ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-02-20 11:43       ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-11  3:18 ` [PATCH 05/12] riscv: Implement non-coherent DMA support via SiFive cache flushing Cristian Ciocaltea
2023-02-13  8:30   ` Ben Dooks
2023-02-14 18:06     ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2023-02-14 18:17       ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-11  3:18 ` [PATCH 06/12] dt-bindings: mfd: syscon: Add StarFive JH7100 sysmain compatible Cristian Ciocaltea
2023-02-13  9:23   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-03-03 11:52   ` Lee Jones
2023-02-11  3:18 ` [PATCH 07/12] dt-bindings: net: Add StarFive JH7100 SoC Cristian Ciocaltea
2023-02-11 16:01   ` Andrew Lunn
2023-02-15  0:34     ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2023-02-15 13:01       ` Andrew Lunn
2023-02-16 15:51         ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2023-02-16 17:54           ` Andrew Lunn
2023-02-17  0:32             ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2023-02-17 13:30               ` Andrew Lunn
2023-02-17 15:25                 ` Cristian Ciocaltea [this message]
2023-02-13  9:25   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-02-11  3:18 ` [PATCH 08/12] net: stmmac: Add glue layer for " Cristian Ciocaltea
2023-02-11 16:11   ` Andrew Lunn
2023-02-15  0:08     ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2023-02-15 11:20       ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-02-15 11:51         ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2023-02-15 12:51       ` Andrew Lunn
2023-02-13  9:26   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-02-14 18:12     ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2023-02-11  3:18 ` [PATCH 09/12] riscv: dts: starfive: Add dma-noncoherent for " Cristian Ciocaltea
2023-02-11  3:18 ` [PATCH 10/12] riscv: dts: starfive: jh7100: Add ccache DT node Cristian Ciocaltea
2023-02-11  3:18 ` [PATCH 11/12] riscv: dts: starfive: jh7100: Add sysmain and gmac DT nodes Cristian Ciocaltea
2023-02-13  9:26   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-02-14 18:15     ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2023-02-11  3:18 ` [PATCH 12/12] riscv: dts: starfive: jh7100-common: Setup pinmux and enable gmac Cristian Ciocaltea
2023-02-11 11:11 ` [PATCH 00/12] Enable networking support for StarFive JH7100 SoC Conor Dooley
2023-02-11 11:53   ` Cristian Ciocaltea

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