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From: "Alok kataria" <alokkataria1@gmail.com>
To: "Arjan van de Ven" <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: akataria@vmware.com, "Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Dan Hecht" <dhecht@vmware.com>, "Tim Mann" <mann@vmware.com>,
	"Zachary Amsden" <zach@vmware.com>,
	"Sahil Rihan" <srihan@vmware.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] x86:Use cpu_khz for loops_per_jiffy calculation
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 21:01:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <35f686220806032101h103152dat841818982aaa5052@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080603182014.79a38d03@infradead.org>

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:41:09 -0700
> Alok Kataria <akataria@vmware.com> wrote:
>
>> On X86 platform we can use the value of cpu_khz computed during tsc
>> calibration to calculate the loops_per_jiffy value. Its very
>> important to keep the error in lpj values to minimum as any error in
>> that may result in kernel panic in check_timer.
>> In virtualization environment on a highly overloaded host, the guest
>> delay calibration may sometimes result in errors beyond the ~50% that
>> timer_irq_works can handle, resulting in the guest panicking.
> \
>
> can you guarantee that the rate tsc ticks at is the same as the current
> CPU frequency? Answer: You can't....
>

I think at the boot time atleast we can assume that, no ?
If you are referring to the cpu frequency changing at run time (aka
dynamic frequency scaling),
in that case the time_cpufreq_notifier should take care of updating
the loops_per_jiffy
value for that corresponding cpu.

> sadly we do need to calibrate this...
>
> In addition, clearly you can have different cpus in a system run at a
> different rate (both in terms of cpu_khz and, independently, in terms
> of tsc rate)
>

Again yes at run time frequency's may change but they shouldn't at boottime.
AFAIK, i don't think there are X86 MP systems with asymmetric cpus
i.e. systems with different
base frequencies. If thats not true then there sure is a problem.

Thanks,
Alok

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-04  4:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-04  0:41 Alok Kataria
2008-06-04  1:20 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-06-04  4:01   ` Alok kataria [this message]
2008-06-04 13:16     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-06-05 18:37       ` Alok Kataria
2008-06-20  1:22       ` Alok Kataria
2008-06-20 11:39         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-20 22:06           ` Alok Kataria
2008-06-23 20:54             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-23 23:21             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-23 23:34               ` Alok Kataria
2008-06-23 23:47                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-24  1:21                   ` Alok Kataria
2008-06-24 11:54                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-24 17:57             ` Pavel Machek
2008-06-26 17:20               ` Alok Kataria
2008-06-26 17:35                 ` Pavel Machek
2008-06-26 18:10                   ` Alok Kataria
2008-06-26 22:16                     ` Pavel Machek
2008-06-26 23:10                       ` Alok Kataria
2008-06-27  8:12                         ` Pavel Machek
2008-06-04 14:17 ` Pavel Machek
2008-06-09 13:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-09 17:55   ` Alok Kataria

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