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From: Qian Cai <cai@lca.pw>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kasan-dev <kasan-dev@googlegroups.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] READ_ONCE, WRITE_ONCE, kcsan: Perform checks in __*_ONCE variants
Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 22:28:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <360AFD09-27EC-4133-A5E3-149B8C0C4232@lca.pw> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y2pn60ob.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>



> On May 19, 2020, at 6:05 PM, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
> 
> Yes, it's unfortunate, but we have to stop making major concessions just
> because tools are not up to the task.
> 
> We've done that way too much in the past and this particular problem
> clearly demonstrates that there are limits.
> 
> Making brand new technology depend on sane tools is not asked too
> much. And yes, it's inconvenient, but all of us have to build tools
> every now and then to get our job done. It's not the end of the world.
> 
> Building clang is trivial enough and pointing the make to the right
> compiler is not rocket science either.

Yes, it all make sense from that angle. On the other hand, I want to be focus on kernel rather than compilers by using a stable and rocket-solid version. Not mentioned the time lost by compiling and properly manage my own toolchain in an automated environment, using such new version of compilers means that I have to inevitably deal with compiler bugs occasionally. Anyway, it is just some other more bugs I have to deal with, and I don’t have a better solution to offer right now.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-20  2:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-12 18:38 Marco Elver
2020-05-12 19:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-19 21:10   ` Qian Cai
2020-05-19 21:25     ` Marco Elver
2020-05-19 21:45       ` Qian Cai
2020-05-19 22:05         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-20  2:28           ` Qian Cai [this message]
2020-05-20  2:47             ` Nathan Chancellor
2020-05-20  3:16               ` Qian Cai
2020-05-20  3:44                 ` Nathan Chancellor
2020-05-20  7:28                   ` Marco Elver

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