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From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
To: Benjamin Berg <benjamin@sipsolutions.net>,
	Bastien Nocera <hadess@hadess.net>,
	Chris Chiu <chiu@endlessm.com>,
	Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>
Cc: Daniel Drake <drake@endlessm.com>,
	Corentin Chary <corentin.chary@gmail.com>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Platform Driver <platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org>,
	acpi4asus-user <acpi4asus-user@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Linux Upstreaming Team <linux@endlessm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] platform/x86: asus-wmi: Call new led hw_changed API on kbd brightness change
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 13:06:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <362131bf-3b6b-58aa-bda6-003f5ffb5e8e@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cfb6ff791a9034f8ade738085475e946b3d7519b.camel@sipsolutions.net>

Hi,

On 05-06-18 12:46, Benjamin Berg wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> On Tue, 2018-06-05 at 12:31 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
>> On 05-06-18 12:14, Bastien Nocera wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2018-06-05 at 12:05 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
>>>> On 05-06-18 11:58, Bastien Nocera wrote:
>>>>> [SNIP]
>>>>
>>>> Ok, so what are you suggestion, do you really want to hardcode
>>>> the cycle behavior in the kernel as these 2 patches are doing,
>>>> without any option to intervene from userspace?
>>>>
>>>> As mentioned before in the thread there are several example
>>>> of the kernel deciding to handle key-presses itself, putting
>>>> policy in the kernel and they have all ended poorly (think
>>>> e.g. rfkill, acpi-video dealing with LC brightnesskey presses
>>>> itself).
>>>>
>>>> I guess one thing we could do here is code out both solutions,
>>>> have a module option which controls if we:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Handle this in the kernel as these patches do
>>>> 2) Or send a new KEY_KBDILLUMCYCLE event
>>>>
>>>> Combined with a Kconfig option to select which is the default
>>>> behavior. Then Endless can select 1 for now and then in
>>>> Fedora (which defaults to Wayland now) we could default to
>>>> 2. once all the code for handling 2 is in place.
>>>>
>>>> This is ugly (on the kernel side) but it might be the best
>>>> compromise we can do.
>>>
>>> I don't really mind which option is used, I'm listing the problems with
>>> the different options. If you don't care about Xorg, then definitely go
>>> for adding a new key. Otherwise, processing it in the kernel is the
>>> least ugly, especially given that the key goes through the same driver
>>> that controls the brightness anyway. There's no crazy cross driver
>>> interaction as there was in the other cases you listed.
>>
>> Unfortunately not caring about Xorg is not really an option.
>>
>> Ok, new idea, how about we make g-s-d behavior upon detecting a
>> KEY_KBDILLUMTOGGLE event configurable, if we're on a Mac do a
>> toggle, otherwise do a cycle.
>>
>> Or we could do this through hwdb, then we could add a hwdb entry
>> for this laptop setting the udev property to do a cycle instead of
>> a toggle on receiving the keypress.
> 
> If we are adding hwdb entries anyway to control the userspace
> interpretation of the TOGGLE key, then we could also add the new CYCLE
> key and explicitly re-map it to TOGGLE. That requires slightly more
> logic in hwdb, but it does mean that we could theoretically just drop
> the workaround if we ever stop caring about Xorg.

Hmm, interesting proposal, I say go for it :)

Regards,

Hans

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-05 11:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-04 12:32 Chris Chiu
2018-06-04 12:32 ` [PATCH 2/2] platform/x86: asus-wmi: Add keyboard backlight toggle support Chris Chiu
2018-06-04 13:22 ` [PATCH 1/2] platform/x86: asus-wmi: Call new led hw_changed API on kbd brightness change Hans de Goede
2018-06-04 13:51   ` Daniel Drake
2018-06-04 14:23     ` Hans de Goede
2018-06-04 15:46       ` Azael Avalos
2018-06-05  2:31       ` Darren Hart
2018-06-05  3:18         ` Chris Chiu
2018-06-05  7:37           ` Hans de Goede
2018-06-05  9:58             ` Bastien Nocera
2018-06-05 10:05               ` Hans de Goede
2018-06-05 10:14                 ` Bastien Nocera
2018-06-05 10:31                   ` Hans de Goede
2018-06-05 10:46                     ` Benjamin Berg
2018-06-05 11:06                       ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2018-06-06  2:50                         ` Chris Chiu
2018-06-06 14:27                           ` Benjamin Berg
2018-06-06 15:32                             ` Hans de Goede
2018-06-09  0:33                               ` Darren Hart
2018-06-09 11:13                                 ` Hans de Goede
2018-06-05  7:35         ` Hans de Goede
2018-06-05  2:17 ` Darren Hart

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