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From: Chen Ridong <chenridong@huaweicloud.com>
To: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, mhocko@kernel.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	yosryahmed@google.com, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
	shakeel.butt@linux.dev, muchun.song@linux.dev, davidf@vimeo.com,
	vbabka@suse.cz, handai.szj@taobao.com, rientjes@google.com,
	kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	chenridong@huawei.com, wangweiyang2@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] memcg: fix soft lockup in the OOM process
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2025 08:52:35 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <362f274a-70ae-4588-afb3-e75ade66ea42@huaweicloud.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ilnyxm3qdk5ix75tfketinbhm6ubrkklrafbvmcwrsnjlgnh35@sjltlqp434fv>



On 2025/1/4 0:18, Michal Koutný wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> On Tue, Dec 24, 2024 at 02:52:38AM +0000, Chen Ridong <chenridong@huaweicloud.com> wrote:
>> A soft lockup issue was found in the product with about 56,000 tasks were
>> in the OOM cgroup, it was traversing them when the soft lockup was
>> triggered.
> 
> Why is this softlockup a problem? 
> It's lot of tasks afterall and possibly a slow console (given looking
> for a victim among the comparable number didn't trigger it).
> 

It's not a slow console, but rather 'console pressure'. When a lot of
tasks apply to the console, it can make 'pr_info' slow. In my case,
these tasks will apply to the console. I reproduced this issue using a
test ko that creates many tasks, all of which just call 'pr_info'.

Best regards,
Ridong

>> To fix this issue, call 'cond_resched' in the 'mem_cgroup_scan_tasks'
>> function per 1000 iterations. For global OOM, call
>> 'touch_softlockup_watchdog' per 1000 iterations to avoid this issue.
> 
> This only hides the issue. It could be similarly fixed by simply
> decreasing loglevel= ;-)
> 
> cond_resched() in the memcg case may be OK but the arbitrary touch for
> global situation may hide possibly useful troubleshooting information.
> (Yeah, cond_resched() won't fit inside RCU section as in other global
> task iterations.)
> 
> 0.02€,
> Michal


  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-04  0:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-24  2:52 Chen Ridong
2024-12-24 23:06 ` David Rientjes
2025-01-03 16:18 ` Michal Koutný
2025-01-04  0:52   ` Chen Ridong [this message]
2025-01-06  8:45 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-13  6:51   ` Chen Ridong
2025-01-14  3:45     ` Andrew Morton
2025-01-14  8:40       ` Michal Hocko
2025-01-14  9:20         ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-14  9:30           ` Michal Hocko
2025-01-14 12:19             ` Chen Ridong
2025-01-14 12:13           ` Chen Ridong
2025-01-14 18:42             ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-01-17  6:59               ` chenridong
2025-01-06  9:29 ` Michal Hocko

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