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From: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>
Cc: bcollins@debian.org, davidel@xmailserver.org, davem@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-net@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: networking bugs and bugme.osdl.org
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 19:13:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <36630000.1056766403@[10.10.2.4]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030627181432.61bf6f3a.akpm@digeo.com>

--Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com> wrote (on Friday, June 27, 2003 18:14:32 -0700):

> "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  I think your suggestion of sending new bugs out to LKML has made a big
>>  dent in the one<->one problem already. Replacing all the default owner 
>>  fields with mailing lists (either existing ones or new ones) instead of 
>>  individuals would be another step in that direction, though there may
>>  be a few hurdles to deal with on the way to that.
>> 
>>  Yes, we probably also need an "email back in" interface as we've 
>>  discussed before to take it up to many-many.
> 
> Both these things would help heaps - the tracking system then
> becomes invisible, basically.  The best of both.  Can we make it so?

The answer to both is yes, but one's harder than the other ;-)

1. default owners -> lists:

Setting default owners to existing lists is somewhat invasive, and
might provoke riots ;-) Not only do you get the new bug notification,
but also any updates, which may become irritating. There's probably 
some vaguely happy medium to be found between: 
	a) sending newly logged bugs to existing lists,
	b) sending updates to some new list.
Maybe if we just create a new list for each category, and let
people subscribe at will to those ... and I keep sending newly logged
bugs to linux-kernel? I can cc netdev / linux-scsi / whatever on those
new ones if that helps?

That seems reasonably helpful and non-invasive to people who don't
want to see it to me. People who like the mailing lists will see the 
new bug reports, and can just delete and forget them (as now). I'll
go with the consensus of opinion (ha!) on this ... I'd like to make
it useful without getting lynched ;-) Using new lists makes it less
intrusive. Any way we go here is fairly easy to set up.

2. email back in.

Email back in is harder, and needs more thought as to how to make it
easy to use, whilst avoiding logging crap (eg. ensuing flamewars that 
derive from the bug reports, etc). My intuition is to log replies by
default, and hack off certain threads by hand by keeping track of 
replies-to headers or something. Not desperately enamoured with that,
but it's the best I can think of, off the top of my head. Open to 
other ideas ...

Anyway, that bit is definitely a longer term project (ie not going to 
happen next week, but maybe in a few weeks).

M.



  reply	other threads:[~2003-06-28  1:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-27  5:30 David S. Miller
2003-06-27  5:46 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-27  5:47   ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27  7:59     ` Matti Aarnio
2003-06-27  8:00       ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27 15:00       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-27 14:34     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-27 14:56       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-27 21:37         ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27 21:54           ` Ben Greear
2003-06-27 21:54             ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27 22:15               ` Ben Greear
2003-06-27 22:19                 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27 22:36                   ` Ben Greear
2003-06-28  0:00                     ` David S. Miller
2003-06-28  0:15                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-28  0:32                         ` David S. Miller
2003-06-28  0:19                       ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-28  0:27                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-28 19:20                           ` Alan Cox
2003-06-29  0:40                             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-06-29  0:44                             ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-27 23:08                   ` Alan Cox
2003-06-28  0:21                     ` David S. Miller
2003-06-28 19:19                       ` Alan Cox
2003-06-28 22:03                         ` David S. Miller
2003-06-28 23:15                           ` Alan Cox
2003-06-28 23:20                             ` David S. Miller
2003-06-28 23:46                               ` Alan Cox
2003-07-12 17:07                           ` Jan Rychter
2003-07-13  4:15                             ` Greg KH
2003-07-14 20:25                               ` USB bugs (was: networking bugs and bugme.osdl.org) Jan Rychter
     [not found]                                 ` <20030714230236.GA7195@kroah.com>
2003-07-15 20:24                                   ` Jan Rychter
2003-07-13  5:22                             ` networking bugs and bugme.osdl.org David S. Miller
2003-07-13  5:42                               ` Jan Rychter
2003-06-27 22:02           ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-27 21:31             ` Ben Collins
2003-06-27 23:25               ` Andrew Morton
2003-06-27 22:30                 ` Ben Collins
2003-06-28  0:32                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-28 19:26                     ` Alan Cox
2003-06-28  0:38                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-28  1:14                   ` Andrew Morton
2003-06-28  2:13                     ` Martin J. Bligh [this message]
2003-06-28  2:35                       ` Andrew Morton
2003-06-28  6:08                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-28  3:27                       ` Jamal Hadi
2003-06-27 22:02             ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27 22:11               ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-27 22:13                 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27 18:50     ` Ben Greear
2003-06-27 21:44       ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27 22:47         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-27 22:53           ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-28  0:44             ` David S. Miller
2003-06-28  0:09           ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27 23:04         ` Alan Cox
2003-06-28  0:19           ` David S. Miller
2003-06-29 21:15           ` David S. Miller
2003-06-29 21:45             ` Andries Brouwer
2003-06-29 21:51               ` David S. Miller
2003-06-29 22:49                 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-06-29 23:21                   ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-29 22:07             ` Alan Cox
2003-06-29 22:13               ` David S. Miller
2003-06-30  2:35                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-20 16:46                   ` Petr Baudis
2003-06-27 15:25 John Bradford
2003-06-27 16:18 Nicolas Mailhot
2003-06-28  8:00 John Bradford
2003-06-28  8:10 John Bradford
2003-06-28 22:37 John Bradford
2003-06-29 22:28 John Bradford

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