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From: Philipp Stanner <phasta@mailbox.org>
To: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
Cc: phasta@kernel.org, "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun@kernel.org>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	"Tamir Duberstein" <tamird@kernel.org>,
	"Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
	"Onur Özkan" <work@onurozkan.dev>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rust: DmaFence: Add better warning through Device reference
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2026 09:52:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <37a2858a4687e4d9bbe0aba4c1861b96875c4ed7.camel@mailbox.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DLOKSGU61PUG.WSZBN04H0A2Q@kernel.org>

On Fri, 2026-09-25 at 19:32 +0200, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> On Fri Sep 25, 2026 at 7:21 PM CEST, Philipp Stanner wrote:
> > I guess we agree that it would be a horrible bug if there's still a
> > command buffer running on the GPU that can access memory which might
> > have been freed once the associated fence signaled.
> 
> Sure, but that's unrelated.
> 
> > So I suppose what you are saying is more: there is not much value in
> > the case of *JobQueue*, basically because all the jobs live inside of
> > it anyways.
> 
> No, I'm saying there is not much value in general. Whatever thing owns the
> DriverFence has to represent the "device access" of some resource, which
> already naturally establishes the relationship.
> 
> IOW, whatever thing owns a DriverFence is also the thing that stops the hardware
> in its own drop() implementation; anything else would be rather questionable.
> 
> > So I suppose we agree that a warning is fine. It won't fire in JQ
> > anyways, but might benefit others.
> 
> What scenario are you thinking of?

Drivers doing "rather questionable" things, like we've seen a great
many times already ;)

Note that the dma_fence backend fires a WARN_ON if a fence is freed
unsignaled, too, for the same reason.

Life finds a way.


P.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-28  7:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-25  8:19 Philipp Stanner
2026-09-25 10:26 ` Gary Guo
2026-09-25 12:30   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-25 13:08     ` Philipp Stanner
2026-09-25 15:50       ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-25 17:21         ` Philipp Stanner
2026-09-25 17:32           ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-28  7:52             ` Philipp Stanner [this message]
2026-09-28  8:11               ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-28  8:32                 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-09-28 10:43                   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-25 16:00       ` Danilo Krummrich

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