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From: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
To: Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	"Juri Lelli" <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	Richie Buturla <richie@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 02/10] sched/fair: Credit a persistent, queue-depth-scaled vlag margin
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2026 11:37:46 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <380d53e2-3671-4327-a613-cf35c58b55d9@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260612013355.59231-3-kernellwp@gmail.com>

Hello Wanpeng,

On 6/12/2026 7:03 AM, Wanpeng Li wrote:
> -	/* Already eligible: nothing to do. */
> -	if (vlag >= 0)
> -		return;
> +	/* Clamp the margin to entity_lag()'s bound so place_entity() keeps it. */
> +	max_slice = cfs_rq_max_slice(cfs_rq) + TICK_NSEC;
> +	lag_limit = calc_delta_fair(max_slice, se);
> +	margin = eevdf_persistent_margin(cfs_rq, se);
> +	if (lag_limit && margin > lag_limit)
> +		margin = lag_limit;
> +	if (vlag >= 0) {
> +		if ((u64)vlag >= margin)
> +			return;
> +		want = margin - (u64)vlag;

And we are making an eligible task more eligible but *where* is this
credit coming from? Someone should be paying the price right?

Just adding an arbitrary credit and then moving the task doing the
yield_to() 0-lag point is simply not fair IMO.

> +	} else {
> +		want = margin + (u64)(-vlag);
> +	}

-- 
Thanks and Regards,
Prateek


  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-12  6:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-12  1:33 [PATCH v3 00/10] sched/fair, KVM: Semantics-aware directed yield for oversubscribed KVM Wanpeng Li
2026-06-12  1:33 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] sched/fair: Add EEVDF lag credit primitive for nominated next-buddy Wanpeng Li
2026-06-12  5:34   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-06-15  9:19   ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-12  1:33 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] sched/fair: Credit a persistent, queue-depth-scaled vlag margin Wanpeng Li
2026-06-12  6:07   ` K Prateek Nayak [this message]
2026-06-15  9:16     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-12  1:33 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] sched/fair: Credit queued next-buddy via canonical requeue Wanpeng Li
2026-06-15  9:21   ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-12  1:33 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] sched/fair: Credit nominated next-buddy in yield_to_task_fair() Wanpeng Li
2026-06-12  1:33 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] sched/fair: Force a local resched on yield_to() so the buddy is picked Wanpeng Li
2026-06-12  1:33 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] KVM: x86: Add IPI tracking infrastructure for directed yield Wanpeng Li
2026-06-12  1:33 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] KVM: x86/lapic: Track unicast fixed IPI delivery Wanpeng Li
2026-06-12  1:33 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] KVM: x86/lapic: Clear IPI tracking on matching-vector EOI Wanpeng Li
2026-06-12  1:33 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] KVM: Add IPI-aware directed-yield candidate selection Wanpeng Li
2026-06-12  1:33 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] KVM: Add relaxed preempted-only fallback for directed yield Wanpeng Li
2026-06-12  5:17 ` [PATCH v3 00/10] sched/fair, KVM: Semantics-aware directed yield for oversubscribed KVM K Prateek Nayak
2026-06-12  9:43 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-15  9:05 ` Vincent Guittot

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