From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.ibm.com>,
Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kvm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: freude@de.ibm.com, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com,
heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, borntraeger@de.ibm.com,
cohuck@redhat.com, kwankhede@nvidia.com,
bjsdjshi@linux.vnet.ibm.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
alex.williamson@redhat.com, pmorel@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
alifm@linux.vnet.ibm.com, mjrosato@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
jjherne@linux.vnet.ibm.com, thuth@redhat.com,
pasic@linux.vnet.ibm.com, berrange@redhat.com,
fiuczy@linux.vnet.ibm.com, buendgen@de.ibm.com,
frankja@linux.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 21/22] KVM: s390: CPU model support for AP virtualization
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:48:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <38b87fc4-9344-70d8-4602-bf8e114769ef@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8f3f3f41-a052-1975-69e2-49e1a662ecab@linux.ibm.com>
>>>
>> I really wonder if we should also export the APXA facility.
>
> Given this comment is made within the context of the
> FACILITIES_KVM_CPUMODEL I might point out that APXA is not
> indicated by a facilities bit. It is indicated by a bit in
> the QCI control block returned from the PQAP(QCI)
> instruction to indicate that APXA is installed on all CPUs.
>
>> We can probe and allow that CPU feature. However, we cannot disable it
>> (as of now).
>
> Given this patch series implements passthrough devices,
> the output of the PQAP(QCI) will always be from a real
> device - i.e., there will be no way to disable it.
>
see below
>>
>> We have other CPU features where it is the same case (basically all
>> subfunctions). See kvm_s390_get_processor_subfunc(). We probe them and
>> export them, but support to disable them has never been implemented.
>>
>> On a high level, we could then e.g. deny to start a QEMU guest if APXA
>> is available but has been disabled. (until we know that disabling it
>> actually works - if ever).
>>
>> This helps to catch nasty migration bugs (e.g. APXA suddenly
>> disappearing). Although unlikely, definitely possible.
>
> Migration of AP devices is not supported by this patch series, so this
> should
> not be an issue.
Might not be a problem now, but could be later. As I said in a different
reply, the CPU model in QEMU does not care about KVM.
I want the QEMU CPU model and the KVM interfaces to be clean and future
proof. That's why my opinion is to handle PQAP(QCI) just like all the
other "feature blocks" we already have.
--
Thanks,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-23 7:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-13 21:47 [PATCH v9 00/22] guest dedicated crypto adapters Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:47 ` [PATCH v9 01/22] s390/zcrypt: Add ZAPQ inline function Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:47 ` [PATCH v9 02/22] s390/zcrypt: Review inline assembler constraints Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 03/22] s390/zcrypt: Show load of cards and queues in sysfs Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 04/22] s390/zcrypt: Integrate ap_asm.h into include/asm/ap.h Tony Krowiak
2018-08-14 8:43 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-17 13:18 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-17 13:27 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-17 19:09 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 05/22] KVM: s390: vsie: simulate VCPU SIE entry/exit Tony Krowiak
2018-08-14 8:50 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-14 12:46 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 06/22] KVM: s390: introduce and use KVM_REQ_VSIE_RESTART Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 07/22] KVM: s390: refactor crypto initialization Tony Krowiak
2018-08-20 16:41 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-20 20:33 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-20 20:41 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-21 13:29 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 08/22] s390: vfio-ap: base implementation of VFIO AP device driver Tony Krowiak
2018-08-14 10:42 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-14 23:30 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 09/22] s390: vfio-ap: register matrix device with VFIO mdev framework Tony Krowiak
2018-08-14 11:19 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-15 16:51 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-16 16:24 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-17 8:43 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-17 19:02 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-09-06 8:49 ` Pierre Morel
2018-09-10 13:38 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-09-10 21:58 ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 10/22] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure adapters Tony Krowiak
2018-08-15 9:52 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-15 16:59 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-16 7:30 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-17 13:23 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 11/22] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure domains Tony Krowiak
2018-08-15 12:05 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-15 17:00 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 12/22] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure control domains Tony Krowiak
2018-08-20 14:23 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-20 16:43 ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-20 17:41 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-21 15:25 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-21 17:07 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-21 23:18 ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-22 9:42 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-22 10:43 ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-22 11:03 ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-22 15:11 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-08-22 15:34 ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-22 15:48 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-08-22 15:53 ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-22 17:11 ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-22 19:16 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-23 9:26 ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-23 10:41 ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-23 10:25 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-23 10:43 ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-23 11:31 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-23 11:44 ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-23 14:16 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-27 8:33 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-27 13:47 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-27 13:51 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-27 15:39 ` Halil Pasic
2018-09-10 13:27 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-22 15:18 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-22 14:31 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 13/22] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interface to view matrix mdev matrix Tony Krowiak
2018-08-20 14:08 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-09-12 17:01 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-09-13 9:12 ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 14/22] KVM: s390: interfaces to clear CRYCB masks Tony Krowiak
2018-08-15 13:10 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-15 17:55 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 15/22] s390: vfio-ap: implement mediated device open callback Tony Krowiak
2018-08-15 16:08 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-15 18:21 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 16/22] s390: vfio-ap: implement VFIO_DEVICE_GET_INFO ioctl Tony Krowiak
2018-08-20 14:24 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 17/22] s390: vfio-ap: zeroize the AP queues Tony Krowiak
2018-08-15 16:24 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-15 20:36 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-17 9:34 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 18/22] s390: vfio-ap: implement VFIO_DEVICE_RESET ioctl Tony Krowiak
2018-08-15 16:38 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-15 21:05 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-17 9:38 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-17 19:03 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 19/22] KVM: s390: Clear Crypto Control Block when using vSIE Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 20/22] KVM: s390: Handling of Cypto control block in VSIE Tony Krowiak
2018-08-21 8:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 21/22] KVM: s390: CPU model support for AP virtualization Tony Krowiak
2018-08-20 14:26 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-21 8:03 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-22 11:19 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-22 11:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-22 20:16 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-23 7:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-23 10:00 ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-23 10:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-23 11:10 ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-23 11:12 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-23 12:47 ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-23 13:22 ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-23 13:38 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-23 14:59 ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-23 17:35 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-23 17:40 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-24 10:28 ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-22 14:33 ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-22 15:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-22 15:50 ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-22 16:57 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-22 21:05 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-23 7:42 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-22 20:54 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-23 7:48 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2018-08-23 8:24 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-09-12 17:42 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-09-17 7:57 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-23 8:26 ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 22/22] s390: doc: detailed specifications " Tony Krowiak
2018-08-20 16:03 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-20 20:16 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-21 16:13 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-21 19:21 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-21 18:54 ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-22 7:38 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-21 9:00 ` Harald Freudenberger
2018-08-21 15:53 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-22 7:04 ` Harald Freudenberger
2018-08-22 10:09 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-22 10:13 ` Harald Freudenberger
2018-08-22 10:45 ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-22 10:19 ` [PATCH v9 00/22] guest dedicated crypto adapters Cornelia Huck
2018-08-22 10:58 ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-22 18:59 ` Tony Krowiak
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