From: Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>
To: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <jbrouer@redhat.com>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
<brouer@redhat.com>,
Maciej Fijalkowski <maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com>,
Larysa Zaremba <larysa.zaremba@intel.com>,
Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com>,
Alexander Duyck <alexanderduyck@fb.com>,
Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
"Ilias Apalodimas" <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
Simon Horman <simon.horman@corigine.com>,
<netdev@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<qingfang.deng@siflower.com.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 9/9] net: skbuff: always try to recycle PP pages directly when in softirq
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2023 15:50:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <38c06c0e-7467-2596-133f-05c5c1569ccc@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <db85d260-fdad-9b7c-cf7e-2e848151292d@redhat.com>
From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <jbrouer@redhat.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2023 11:32:01 +0200
>
>
> On 27/07/2023 16.43, Alexander Lobakin wrote:
>> Commit 8c48eea3adf3 ("page_pool: allow caching from safely localized
>> NAPI") allowed direct recycling of skb pages to their PP for some cases,
>> but unfortunately missed a couple of other majors.
>> For example, %XDP_DROP in skb mode. The netstack just calls kfree_skb(),
>> which unconditionally passes `false` as @napi_safe. Thus, all pages go
>> through ptr_ring and locks, although most of time we're actually inside
>> the NAPI polling this PP is linked with, so that it would be perfectly
>> safe to recycle pages directly.
>
> The commit messages is hard to read. It would help me as the reader if
> you used a empty line between paragraphs, like in this location (same
> goes for other commit descs).
O_o
I paste empty line basing on logics. These two don't have it, as the
second paragraph is the continuation of the first: it expands what I
mean by "a couple of other majors".
Do you want to have empty newlines between each paragraph instead?
>
>> Let's address such. If @napi_safe is true, we're fine, don't change
>> anything for this path. But if it's false, check whether we are in the
>> softirq context. It will most likely be so and then if ->list_owner
>> is our current CPU, we're good to use direct recycling, even though
>> @napi_safe is false -- concurrent access is excluded. in_softirq()
>> protection is needed mostly due to we can hit this place in the
>> process context (not the hardirq though).
>
> This patch make me a little nervous, as it can create hard-to-debug bugs
> if this isn't 100% correct. (Thanks for previous patch that exclude
> hardirq via lockdep).
Pretty much any -next patch can create "hard-to-debug" bugs. Not a
reason to avoid any improvements, tho?
Speaking of this particular patch, can you give an example of situation
where this wouldn't be correct?
>
>> For the mentioned xdp-drop-skb-mode case, the improvement I got is
>> 3-4% in Mpps. As for page_pool stats, recycle_ring is now 0 and
>> alloc_slow counter doesn't change most of time, which means the
>> MM layer is not even called to allocate any new pages.
>>
>> Suggested-by: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> # in_softirq()
>> Signed-off-by: Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>
>> ---
>> net/core/skbuff.c | 4 +++-
>> 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/net/core/skbuff.c b/net/core/skbuff.c
>> index e701401092d7..5ba3948cceed 100644
>> --- a/net/core/skbuff.c
>> +++ b/net/core/skbuff.c
>> @@ -901,8 +901,10 @@ bool page_pool_return_skb_page(struct page *page,
>> bool napi_safe)
>> /* Allow direct recycle if we have reasons to believe that we are
>> * in the same context as the consumer would run, so there's
>> * no possible race.
>> + * __page_pool_put_page() makes sure we're not in hardirq context
>> + * and interrupts are enabled prior to accessing the cache.
>> */
>> - if (napi_safe) {
>> + if (napi_safe || in_softirq()) {
>
> I used to have in_serving_softirq() in PP to exclude process context
> that just disabled BH to do direct recycling (into a lockless array).
> This changed in kernel v6.3 commit 542bcea4be86 ("net: page_pool: use
> in_softirq() instead") to help threaded NAPI. I guess, nothing blew up
> so I guess this was okay to relax this.
(below)
>
>> const struct napi_struct *napi = READ_ONCE(pp->p.napi);
>> allow_direct = napi &&
>
> AFAIK this in_softirq() will allow process context with disabled BH to
> also recycle directly into the PP lockless array. With the additional
> checks (that are just outside above diff-context) that I assume makes
> sure CPU (smp_processor_id()) also match. Is this safe?
Disabling BH also disables preemption. smp_processor_id() can give wrong
values only when preemption is enabled (see get_cpu()/put_cpu()).
Also look at how threaded NAPI and busy polling call NAPI polling
callbacks. They just disable BH. And nobody ever said that it's not safe
to call smp_processor_id() in the NAPI polling callbacks.
When your context matches and the processor ID matches, how could you
provoke concurrent access?
>
> --Jesper
>
Thanks,
Olek
prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-07-28 13:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-07-27 14:43 [PATCH net-next 0/9] page_pool: a couple of assorted optimizations Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-27 14:43 ` [PATCH net-next 1/9] page_pool: split types and declarations from page_pool.h Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-28 11:58 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-07-28 13:55 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-27 14:43 ` [PATCH net-next 2/9] net: skbuff: don't include <net/page_pool/types.h> to <linux/skbuff.h> Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-28 12:02 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-07-28 13:58 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-29 11:40 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-08-01 13:25 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-27 14:43 ` [PATCH net-next 3/9] page_pool: place frag_* fields in one cacheline Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-27 14:43 ` [PATCH net-next 4/9] page_pool: shrink &page_pool_params a tiny bit Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-27 14:43 ` [PATCH net-next 5/9] page_pool: don't use driver-set flags field directly Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-28 12:36 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-07-28 14:03 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-28 15:50 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-29 11:40 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-08-01 13:36 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-08-02 11:36 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-08-02 21:29 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-08-03 14:56 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-08-03 16:00 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-08-03 16:07 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-08-03 16:40 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-08-03 16:42 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-27 14:43 ` [PATCH net-next 6/9] page_pool: avoid calling no-op externals when possible Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-28 12:39 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-07-28 14:14 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-29 12:46 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-08-01 13:42 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-08-02 11:37 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-08-02 15:49 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-27 14:43 ` [PATCH net-next 7/9] net: skbuff: avoid accessing page_pool if !napi_safe when returning page Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-27 14:43 ` [PATCH net-next 8/9] page_pool: add a lockdep check for recycling in hardirq Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-27 14:43 ` [PATCH net-next 9/9] net: skbuff: always try to recycle PP pages directly when in softirq Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-28 9:32 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-07-28 13:50 ` Alexander Lobakin [this message]
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