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From: "Suthikulpanit, Suravee" <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	"Giani, Dhaval" <Dhaval.Giani@amd.com>,
	Vasant Hegde <vasant.hegde@amd.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/6] iommufd: Add nesting infrastructure (part 2/2)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2023 00:35:26 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <391ab316-79b1-4535-a45b-4c01bfb80de6@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231209014726.GA2945299@nvidia.com>



On 12/9/2023 8:47 AM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 05:07:11AM -0800, Yi Liu wrote:
> 
>> Take Intel VT-d as an example, the stage-1 translation table is I/O page
>> table. As the below diagram shows, guest I/O page table pointer in GPA
>> (guest physical address) is passed to host and be used to perform the stage-1
>> address translation. Along with it, modifications to present mappings in the
>> guest I/O page table should be followed with an IOTLB invalidation.
> 
> I've been looking at what the three HW's need for invalidation, it is
> a bit messy.. Here is my thinking. Please let me know if I got it right
> 
> What is the starting point of the guest memory walks:
>   Intel: Single Scalable Mode PASID table entry indexed by a RID & PASID
>   AMD: GCR3 table (a table of PASIDs) indexed by RID

GCR3 table is indexed by PASID.
Device Table (DTE) is indexted by DeviceID (RID)

> ...
> Will ATC be forwarded or synthesized:
>   Intel: The (vDomain-ID,PASID) is a unique nesting domain so
>          the hypervisor knows exactly which RIDs this nesting domain is
> 	linked to and can generate an ATC invalidation. Plan is to
> 	supress/discard the ATC invalidations from the VM and generate
> 	them in the hypervisor.
>   AMD: (vDomain-ID,PASID) is ambiguous, it can refer to multiple GCR3
>        tables. We know which maximal set of RIDs it represents, but not
>        the actual set. I expect AMD will forward the ATC invalidation
>        to avoid over invalidation.

Not sure I understand your description here.

For the AMD IOMMU INVALIDE_IOMMU_PAGES (i.e. invalidate the IOMMU TLB), 
the hypervisor needs to map gDomainId->hDomainId and issue the command 
on behalf of the VM along with the PASID and GVA (or GVA range) provided 
by the guest.

For the AMD IOMMU INVALIDE_IOTLB_PAGES (i.e. invalidate the ATC on the 
device), the hypervisor needs to map gDeviceId->hDeviceId and issue the 
command on behalf of the VM along with the PASID and GVA (or GVA range) 
provided by the guest.

>   ARM: ASID is ambiguous. We have no idea which Nesting Domain/CD table
>        the ASID is contained in. ARM must forward the ATC invalidation
>        from the guest.
> 
> What iommufd object should receive the IOTLB invalidation command list:
>   Intel: The Nesting domain. The command list has to be broken up per
>          (vDomain-ID,PASID) and that batch delivered to the single
> 	nesting domain. Kernel ignores vDomain-ID/PASID and just
> 	invalidates whatever the nesting domain is actually attached to
>   AMD: Any Nesting Domain in the vDomain-ID group. The command list has
>        to be broken up per (vDomain-ID). Kernel replaces
>        vDomain-ID with pDomain-ID from the nesting domain and executes
>        the invalidation.
>   ARM: The Nesting Parent domain. Kernel forces the VMID from the
>        Nesting Parent and executes the invalidation.
> 
> In all cases the VM issues an ATC invalidation with (vRID, PASID) as
> the tag. The VMM must translate vRID -> dev_id -> pRID
> 
> For a pure SW flow the vRID can be mapped to the dev_id and the ATC
> invalidation delivered to the device object (eg IOMMUFD_DEV_INVALIDATE)
> 
> Finally, we have the HW driven invalidation DMA queues that can be
> directly assigned to the guest. AMD and SMMUv3+vCMDQ support this. In
> this case the HW is directly processing invalidation commands without
> a hypervisor trap.
> 
> To make this work the iommu needs to be programmed with:
>   AMD: A vDomain-ID -> pDomain-ID table
>        A vRID -> pRID table
>        This is all bound to some "virtual function"

By "virtual function", I assume you are referring to the AMD vIOMMU 
instance in the guest?

>   ARM: A vRID -> pRID table
>        The vCMDQ is bound to a VM_ID, so to the Nesting Parent
> 
> For AMD, as above, I suggest the vDomain-ID be passed when creating
> the nesting domain
Sure, we can do this part.

> The AMD "virtual function".. It is probably best to create a new iommufd
> object for this and it can be passed in to a few places

Something like IOMMUFD_OBJ_VIOMMU? Then operation would include 
something like:
   * Init
   * Destroy
   * ...

> The vRID->pRID table should be some mostly common
> IOMMUFD_DEV_ASSIGN_VIRTUAL_ID. AMD will need to pass in the virtual
> function ID and ARM will need to pass in the Nesting Parent ID.

Ok.

> ...
> Thus next steps:
>   - Respin this and lets focus on Intel only (this will be tough for
>     the holidays, but if it is available I will try)
>   - Get an ARM patch that just does IOTLB invalidation and add it to my
>     part 3
>   - Start working on IOMMUFD_DEV_INVALIDATE along with an ARM
>     implementation of it
>   - Reorganize the AMD RFC broadly along these lines and lets see it
>     freshened up in the next months as well. I would like to see the
>     AMD support structured to implement the SW paths in first steps and
>     later add in the "virtual function" acceleration stuff. The latter
>     is going to be complex.

Working on refining the part 1 to add HW info reporting and nested 
translation (minus the invalidation stuff). Should be sending out soon.

Suravee

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-12-11 17:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-17 13:07 Yi Liu
2023-11-17 13:07 ` [PATCH v6 1/6] iommu: Add cache_invalidate_user op Yi Liu
2023-11-20  7:53   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-12-06 18:32   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-06 18:43     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-12-06 18:50       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-07  6:53         ` Yi Liu
2024-01-08  7:32   ` Binbin Wu
2023-11-17 13:07 ` [PATCH v6 2/6] iommufd: Add IOMMU_HWPT_INVALIDATE Yi Liu
2023-11-20  8:09   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-11-20  8:29     ` Yi Liu
2023-11-20  8:34       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-11-20 17:36         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-11-21  2:50           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-11-21  5:24             ` Nicolin Chen
2023-11-24  2:36               ` Tian, Kevin
2023-11-27 19:53                 ` Nicolin Chen
2023-11-28  6:01                   ` Yi Liu
2023-11-29  0:54                     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-11-28  8:03                   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-11-29  0:51                     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-11-29  0:57                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-29  1:09                         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-11-29 19:58                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-29 22:07                             ` Nicolin Chen
2023-11-30  0:08                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-30 20:41                                 ` Nicolin Chen
2023-12-01  0:45                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-01  4:29                                     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-12-01 12:55                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-01 19:58                                         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-12-01 20:43                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-01 22:12                                             ` Nicolin Chen
2023-12-04 14:48                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-05 17:33                                                 ` Nicolin Chen
2023-12-06 12:48                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-01  3:51                         ` Yi Liu
2023-12-01  4:50                           ` Nicolin Chen
2023-12-01  5:19                             ` Tian, Kevin
2023-12-01  7:05                               ` Yi Liu
2023-12-01  7:10                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-12-01  9:08                                   ` Yi Liu
2023-11-21  5:02   ` Baolu Lu
2023-11-21  5:19     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-11-28  5:54       ` Yi Liu
2023-12-06 18:33   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-07  6:59   ` Yi Liu
2023-12-07  9:04     ` Tian, Kevin
2023-12-07 14:42       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-11  7:53         ` Yi Liu
2023-12-11 13:21           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-12 13:45             ` Liu, Yi L
2023-12-12 14:40               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-13 13:47                 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-12-13 14:11                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-11  7:49       ` Yi Liu
2023-11-17 13:07 ` [PATCH v6 3/6] iommu: Add iommu_copy_struct_from_user_array helper Yi Liu
2023-11-20  8:17   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-11-20 17:25     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-11-21  2:48       ` Tian, Kevin
2024-01-08  8:37   ` Binbin Wu
2023-11-17 13:07 ` [PATCH v6 4/6] iommufd/selftest: Add mock_domain_cache_invalidate_user support Yi Liu
2023-12-06 18:16   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-11 11:21     ` Yi Liu
2023-11-17 13:07 ` [PATCH v6 5/6] iommufd/selftest: Add IOMMU_TEST_OP_MD_CHECK_IOTLB test op Yi Liu
2023-11-17 13:07 ` [PATCH v6 6/6] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for IOMMU_HWPT_INVALIDATE ioctl Yi Liu
2023-12-06 18:19   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-11 11:28     ` Yi Liu
2023-12-11 13:06       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-09  1:47 ` [PATCH v6 0/6] iommufd: Add nesting infrastructure (part 2/2) Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-11  2:29   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-12-11 12:36     ` Yi Liu
2023-12-11 13:05       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-11 15:34         ` Suthikulpanit, Suravee
2023-12-11 16:06           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-11 12:35   ` Yi Liu
2023-12-11 13:20     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-11 20:11       ` Nicolin Chen
2023-12-11 21:48         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-11 17:35   ` Suthikulpanit, Suravee [this message]
2023-12-11 17:45     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-11 21:27   ` Nicolin Chen
2023-12-11 21:57     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-12  7:30       ` Nicolin Chen
2023-12-12 14:44         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-12 19:13           ` Nicolin Chen
2023-12-12 19:21             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-12 20:05               ` Nicolin Chen
2023-12-13 12:40                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-13 19:54                   ` Nicolin Chen
     [not found] ` <CGME20231217215720eucas1p2a590aca62ce8eb5ba81df6bc8b1a785d@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2023-12-17 11:21   ` Joel Granados
2023-12-19  9:26     ` Yi Liu
2023-12-20 11:23       ` Joel Granados

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