From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 00:29:31 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 00:29:22 -0400 Received: from agrashak.cpg.com.au ([138.79.128.10]:59399 "HELO agrashak.cpg.com.au") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 00:29:17 -0400 Message-ID: <39F904AA.A585C3FF@cpgen.cpg.com.au> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:29:30 +1100 From: Grahame Jordan Organization: Interim Technology Training Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kernel Mailing List Subject: NFS, Can't get request slot Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------71BB0AD1A92F65F7A6886F87" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --------------71BB0AD1A92F65F7A6886F87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, We have /usr mounted over NFS on our workstations RH6.2 Server RH 6.2 nfs-utils-0.1.9.1-1 Kernel 2.2.16 These workstations happily use samba and other services without any delays but with NFS they hang in X for up to 15 minutes before NFS come back. We can ssh into the workstations and use any utility underneath X without any problems whilst it is hung in X. We have changed the Server eepro100 for a 3com 3c95x with no difference according to what has been alluded to in other kernel posts. By the evidence that we have gathered it seems that the Server is not taxed too much as samba users are getting files OK etc. The can't get request slot is plaguing many others in different ways. It looks like an NFS issue. How can this be proven? Then we can work on the problem. Thanks -- Grahame Jordan Network Manager Interim Technology Training Institute Mobile: +61 3 0408 058 209 Phone: +61 3 9243 2220 Fax: +61 3 9820 2010 e-mail: jordg@cpgen.cpg.com.au Transforming the way people work with technology with INTEGRITY LEARNING INNOVATION TEAMWORK PERFORMANCE --------------71BB0AD1A92F65F7A6886F87 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,

We have /usr mounted over NFS on our workstations  RH6.2
Server RH 6.2
nfs-utils-0.1.9.1-1
Kernel 2.2.16

These workstations happily use samba and other services without any
delays but with NFS they hang in X for up to 15 minutes before NFS come
back.
We can ssh into the workstations and use any utility underneath X
without any problems whilst it is hung in X.

We have changed  the Server eepro100 for a 3com 3c95x with no difference
according to what has been alluded to in other kernel posts.

By the evidence that we have gathered it seems that the Server is not
taxed too much as samba users are getting files OK etc.  The can't get
request slot is plaguing many others in different ways.   It looks like
an NFS issue.   How can this be proven?  Then we can work on the
problem.

Thanks 

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  --------------71BB0AD1A92F65F7A6886F87-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 08:05:29 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 08:05:19 -0400 Received: from zeus.kernel.org ([209.10.41.242]:44036 "EHLO zeus.kernel.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 08:05:08 -0400 Subject: Re: NFS, Can't get request slot To: jordg@cpgen.cpg.com.au (Grahame Jordan) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 12:40:31 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (Kernel Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <39F904AA.A585C3FF@cpgen.cpg.com.au> from "Grahame Jordan" at Oct 27, 2000 03:29:30 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: Alan Cox Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > By the evidence that we have gathered it seems that the Server is not > taxed too much as samba users are getting files OK etc. The can't get > request slot is plaguing many others in different ways. It looks like > an NFS issue. How can this be proven? Then we can work on the > problem. The request queue slot message means the server isnt responding (at least in the eyes of the client). Given you can get into the box that isnt the net card (at least not now). What mount options do you use ? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 05:40:13 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 05:40:02 -0500 Received: from agrashak.cpg.com.au ([138.79.128.10]:58630 "HELO agrashak.cpg.com.au") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 05:39:47 -0500 Message-ID: <39FD4FED.43C65FFC@cpgen.cpg.com.au> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 21:39:41 +1100 From: Grahame Jordan Organization: Interim Technology Training Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Cox CC: Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: NFS, Can't get request slot In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------FDB901856F3995649012E784" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --------------FDB901856F3995649012E784 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alan, student:/susr/ /usr nfs defaults,rsize=1024,wsize=1024 0 0 Thanks Graham Jordan Alan Cox wrote: > > By the evidence that we have gathered it seems that the Server is not > > taxed too much as samba users are getting files OK etc. The can't get > > request slot is plaguing many others in different ways. It looks like > > an NFS issue. How can this be proven? Then we can work on the > > problem. > > The request queue slot message means the server isnt responding (at least in > the eyes of the client). Given you can get into the box that isnt the > net card (at least not now). What mount options do you use ? > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ -- Grahame Jordan Network Manager Interim Technology Training Institute Mobile: +61 3 0408 058 209 Phone: +61 3 9243 2220 Fax: +61 3 9820 2010 e-mail: jordg@cpgen.cpg.com.au Transforming the way people work with technology with INTEGRITY LEARNING INNOVATION TEAMWORK PERFORMANCE --------------FDB901856F3995649012E784 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alan,

student:/susr/     /usr              nfs          defaults,rsize=1024,wsize=1024          0 0

Thanks

Graham Jordan
 

Alan Cox wrote:

> By the evidence that we have gathered it seems that the Server is not
> taxed too much as samba users are getting files OK etc.  The can't get
> request slot is plaguing many others in different ways.   It looks like
> an NFS issue.   How can this be proven?  Then we can work on the
> problem.

The request queue slot message means the server isnt responding (at least in
the eyes of the client). Given you can get into the box that isnt the
net card (at least not now). What mount options do you use ?
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  --------------FDB901856F3995649012E784-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 19:14:56 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 19:14:47 -0500 Received: from agrashak.cpg.com.au ([138.79.128.10]:51717 "HELO agrashak.cpg.com.au") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 19:14:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3A0B3E17.9D7E3FFA@cpgen.cpg.com.au> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:15:19 +1100 From: Grahame Jordan Organization: Interim Technology Training Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Cox CC: Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: NFS, Can't get request slot In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------FF7A9F2F6A0B5EA69C61B446" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --------------FF7A9F2F6A0B5EA69C61B446 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alan, On a client running all by itself on our production network overnight, doing an "ls -lR /usr" and doing a compile (in a loop) is giving the same problems. A little snipit from /var/log/messages Nov 10 04:31:20 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK Nov 10 04:33:17 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student not responding, still trying Nov 10 04:33:17 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK Nov 10 04:34:59 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student not responding, still trying Nov 10 04:35:04 spc81 kernel: nfs: task 20823 can't get a request slot Nov 10 04:35:35 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK Nov 10 04:35:35 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK Nov 10 04:44:43 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student not responding, still trying Nov 10 04:44:44 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK Nov 10 04:45:56 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student not responding, still trying Nov 10 04:46:00 spc81 kernel: nfs: task 20457 can't get a request slot Nov 10 04:46:00 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK Nov 10 04:46:03 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK Nov 10 04:49:15 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student not responding, still trying Nov 10 04:49:15 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK Nov 10 04:49:25 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student not responding, still trying Nov 10 04:52:21 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK Nov 10 04:53:43 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student not responding, still trying Nov 10 04:53:43 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK Nov 10 04:54:01 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student not responding, still trying Nov 10 04:54:02 spc81 kernel: nfs: task 64822 can't get a request slot Nov 10 04:54:13 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK Nov 10 04:54:15 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK Nov 10 04:55:57 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student not responding, still trying Nov 10 04:55:59 spc81 kernel: nfs: task 29484 can't get a request slot Nov 10 04:56:21 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK Nov 10 04:56:23 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK Nov 10 04:58:15 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student not responding, still trying Nov 10 04:58:21 spc81 kernel: nfs: task 1477 can't get a request slot Nov 10 04:58:52 spc81 kernel: nfs: task 1478 can't get a request slot Nov 10 04:59:15 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK Shows that under no (or little) load this thing is failing. We have 20 networks with ~100 machines on each with this same problem. Only a few at a time are using Linux. We are trying to promote Linux as a great operating system, but this is not helping. Again the samba on win95 is puring along nicely plus every other service but for NFS. We have changed the NIC on this server to 3Com 3c90x for no change in status. Clients are using CNETPro120 200 and Intel eepro100 The servers are generally PIII500 512MB RAM. We have tried mount flags rsize=1024, 8192, 128, with no change. It looks like a server issue related to RPC. But I am only guessing here. Any more help is much appreciated. Thanks Grahame Jordan Alan Cox wrote: > > By the evidence that we have gathered it seems that the Server is not > > taxed too much as samba users are getting files OK etc. The can't get > > request slot is plaguing many others in different ways. It looks like > > an NFS issue. How can this be proven? Then we can work on the > > problem. > > The request queue slot message means the server isnt responding (at least in > the eyes of the client). Given you can get into the box that isnt the > net card (at least not now). What mount options do you use ? > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ -- Grahame Jordan Network Manager Interim Technology Training Institute Mobile: +61 3 0408 058 209 Phone: +61 3 9243 2220 Fax: +61 3 9820 2010 e-mail: jordg@cpgen.cpg.com.au Transforming the way people work with technology with INTEGRITY LEARNING INNOVATION TEAMWORK PERFORMANCE --------------FF7A9F2F6A0B5EA69C61B446 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alan,

On a client running all by itself on our production network overnight, doing an "ls -lR /usr" and doing a compile (in a loop) is giving the same problems.

A little snipit from /var/log/messages
Nov 10 04:31:20 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK
Nov 10 04:33:17 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student not responding, still trying
Nov 10 04:33:17 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK
Nov 10 04:34:59 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student not responding, still trying
Nov 10 04:35:04 spc81 kernel: nfs: task 20823 can't get a request slot
Nov 10 04:35:35 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK
Nov 10 04:35:35 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK
Nov 10 04:44:43 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student not responding, still trying
Nov 10 04:44:44 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK
Nov 10 04:45:56 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student not responding, still trying
Nov 10 04:46:00 spc81 kernel: nfs: task 20457 can't get a request slot
Nov 10 04:46:00 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK
Nov 10 04:46:03 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK
Nov 10 04:49:15 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student not responding, still trying
Nov 10 04:49:15 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK
Nov 10 04:49:25 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student not responding, still trying
Nov 10 04:52:21 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK
Nov 10 04:53:43 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student not responding, still trying
Nov 10 04:53:43 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK
Nov 10 04:54:01 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student not responding, still trying
Nov 10 04:54:02 spc81 kernel: nfs: task 64822 can't get a request slot
Nov 10 04:54:13 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK
Nov 10 04:54:15 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK
Nov 10 04:55:57 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student not responding, still trying
Nov 10 04:55:59 spc81 kernel: nfs: task 29484 can't get a request slot
Nov 10 04:56:21 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK
Nov 10 04:56:23 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK
Nov 10 04:58:15 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student not responding, still trying
Nov 10 04:58:21 spc81 kernel: nfs: task 1477 can't get a request slot
Nov 10 04:58:52 spc81 kernel: nfs: task 1478 can't get a request slot
Nov 10 04:59:15 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK

Shows that under no (or little) load this thing is failing.

We have 20 networks with ~100 machines on each with this same problem.  Only a few at a time are using Linux.  We are trying to promote Linux as a great operating system, but this is not helping.  Again the samba on win95 is puring along nicely plus every other service but for NFS.

We have changed the NIC on this server to 3Com 3c90x for no change in status.  Clients are using  CNETPro120 200 and Intel eepro100

The servers are generally PIII500  512MB RAM.

We have tried mount flags rsize=1024, 8192, 128, with no change.

It looks like a server issue related to RPC.   But I am only guessing here.

Any more help is much appreciated.

Thanks

Grahame Jordan
 

Alan Cox wrote:

> By the evidence that we have gathered it seems that the Server is not
> taxed too much as samba users are getting files OK etc.  The can't get
> request slot is plaguing many others in different ways.   It looks like
> an NFS issue.   How can this be proven?  Then we can work on the
> problem.

The request queue slot message means the server isnt responding (at least in
the eyes of the client). Given you can get into the box that isnt the
net card (at least not now). What mount options do you use ?
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  Phone:  +61 3 9243 2220
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  --------------FF7A9F2F6A0B5EA69C61B446-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 19:18:26 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 19:18:16 -0500 Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk ([194.168.151.1]:24678 "EHLO the-village.bc.nu") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 19:18:02 -0500 Subject: Re: NFS, Can't get request slot To: jordg@cpgen.cpg.com.au (Grahame Jordan) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 00:18:29 +0000 (GMT) Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox), linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (Kernel Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <3A0B3E17.9D7E3FFA@cpgen.cpg.com.au> from "Grahame Jordan" at Nov 10, 2000 11:15:19 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: Alan Cox Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > Nov 10 04:33:17 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student not responding, still trying > Nov 10 04:33:17 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK These are all one second or subsecond timeouts > Nov 10 04:45:56 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student not responding, still trying > Nov 10 04:46:00 spc81 kernel: nfs: task 20457 can't get a request slot > Nov 10 04:46:00 spc81 kernel: nfs: server student OK One four second one here > We have changed the NIC on this server to 3Com 3c90x for no change in status. > Clients are using CNETPro120 200 and Intel eepro100 If samba is ok its not the NIC, it could be congestion on routers or hubs but you have tried rsize 1024 (and wsize ??) > Any more help is much appreciated. You might want to just bump up the NFS timeouts for those warning messages a couple of seconds. I dont think you have an actual problem. Timeouts are configurable in mount - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/