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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>
To: root@chaos.analogic.com
Cc: Brian Gerst <bgerst@didntduck.org>,
	Linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Module open() problems, Linux 2.4.0
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 16:02:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A0B10F3.32A14DF4@mandrakesoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.1001109154744.16836A-100000@chaos.analogic.com>

"Richard B. Johnson" wrote:
> I suppose. Look at what you just stated! This means that a reported
> value is now worthless.
> 
> To restate, somebody decided that we didn't need this reported value
> anymore. Therefore, it is okay to make it worthless.
> 
> I don't agree. The De-facto standard has been that the module usage
> count is equal to the open count. This became the standard because
> of a long established history.
> 
> This is one of the tools we use to verify that an entire system
> is functioning properly. Now, somebody decided that I didn't need
> this tool.

You assumed the module count == device open count, when that was in fact
never the case.  The 2.4.x kernel changes merely shattered false
assumptions you held on your part.

The kernel thread example I described in my last e-mail holds true for
kernel 2.2.x as well, maybe 2.0.x too.

	Jeff


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  reply	other threads:[~2000-11-09 21:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-11-09 19:00 Richard B. Johnson
2000-11-09 19:27 ` Brian Gerst
2000-11-09 20:12   ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-11-09 20:22     ` Christoph Hellwig
2000-11-09 20:27     ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-09 20:57       ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-11-09 21:02         ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2000-11-09 21:05         ` Christoph Hellwig
2000-11-10  0:01           ` Olaf Titz
2000-11-09 20:27     ` Brian Gerst

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