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From: Andrew Morton <andrewm@uow.edu.au>
To: James Simmons <jsimmons@suse.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	FrameBuffer List <linux-fbdev@vuser.vu.union.edu>,
	Linux console project <linuxconsole-dev@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: console spin_lock
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:42:59 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A66E4D3.B2BEFCBB@uow.edu.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0101171514050.266-100000@euclid.oak.suse.com>


James Simmons wrote:
> ...
> By you saying couldn't be acquired from interrupt context do you mean
> from a process context or do you mean it failed to aquire it while in
> the interrupt context?

Actually, printk() must always use __down_trylock().

> > - Get rid of console_tasklet.  Do it in process context callback
> >   or just do it synchronously.
> 
> What about multidesktop systems? I have vgacon and mdacon working fine
> along each other. Each one has their own tasklet to allow them to work
> independent of each other. Meaning no race condition when both VC switch
> at the same time.

Ah.  Thanks. That stuff was actually design-from-memory :)  I'll take
a closer look when I have something other than a clockwork computer.
 
> > Assumption:
> > - Once the system is up and running, it's always safe to
> >   call down() when in_interrupt() returns false - probably
> >   not the case in parts of the exit path - tough.
> 
> Don't forget the idle_task case as well. exit path?

This statement of mine was grade-A bollocks.  printk cannot of
course call down().  It needs to use __down_trylock and buffer
it up if it fails. (faster, too!)

The subtler problem will be interrupt-capable drivers which
do a bare spin_lock() to serialise wrt their interrupt routines,
relying upon interrupts being disabled.  They'll be deadlocky
and will need changing.  That's trivial to find and fix though.

Anyway, this was just a heads-up that I'll be looking at
this stuff.  Please allow me a week or so to provide
some substance.  I read that the fbdev developers have
been seeking a fix for this for some time, so it seems
worth some effort.
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-01-18 12:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-17  0:05 James Simmons
2001-01-17 13:49 ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-17 18:22   ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-17 23:40   ` James Simmons
2001-01-18 12:42     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2001-01-18 21:50       ` Russell King
2001-01-19  1:23       ` James Simmons

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