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From: David Balazic <david.balazic@uni-mb.si>
To: Nathan Walp <faceprint@faceprint.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.2ac20
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:31:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3AAF3A56.C4EA2A95@uni-mb.si> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3AAE4DB6.8349ACBA@uni-mb.si> <3AAE7406.283D2411@faceprint.com>

Nathan Walp wrote:
> 
> David Balazic wrote:
> >
> > Nathan Walp (faceprint@faceprint.com) wrote :
> >
> > > Also, sometime between ac7 and ac18 (spring break kept me from testing
> > > stuff inbetween), i assume during the new aic7xxx driver merge, the
> > > order of detection got changed, and now the ide-scsi virtual host is
> > > host0, and my 29160N is host1. Is this on purpose? It messed up a
> > > bunch of my stuff as far as /dev and such are concerned.
> >
> > SCSI adapters are enumerated randomly(*) , relying on certain numbering
> > will get you into trouble, sooner or later.
> > There is no commonly accepted solution, AFAIK.
> > The same thing can happent to disk enumeration ( sdb becomes sdc )
> > or partition enumeration ( hda6 becomes hda5 ).
> >
> > * - theoreticaly no, but practicaly yes ( most of the time )
> >
> > --
> > David Balazic
> > --------------
> > "Be excellent to each other." - Bill & Ted
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> 
> SCSI adapters are given host numbers in a random order?  Even with no
> hardware changes?  Does this make less than sense to anyone else?  Every
> kernel EVER up till now has had the real scsi cards (in some particular
> order) then ide-scsi.  Have I just been lucky???
> 
> Nathan

What I mean that too many factors are affecting the enumeration,
so that you can not rely on it :

-  kernel changes
-  driver changes ( partly overlaps with the previous poit )
-  hardware changes
-  something else ?

There is no policy for this enumeration ( AFAIK ) , so there is
nothing to rely on , except luck :-)

-- 
David Balazic
--------------
"Be excellent to each other." - Bill & Ted
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-03-14  9:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-03-13 16:41 David Balazic
2001-03-13 19:24 ` Nathan Walp
2001-03-13 23:02   ` Tim Wright
2001-03-14  9:31   ` David Balazic [this message]
2001-03-14 15:12     ` Nathan Walp
2001-03-14 15:36       ` magic device renumbering was -- " John Jasen
2001-03-14 16:27         ` Tim Wright
2001-03-14 18:15           ` Greg KH
2001-03-15  1:53             ` Tim Wright
2001-03-15  2:08               ` Greg KH
2001-03-14 18:23         ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-03-14 18:45           ` Peter Svensson
2001-03-14 19:11           ` Lars Kellogg-Stedman
2001-03-14 19:34             ` Andreas Dilger
2001-03-14 19:44             ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-03-15 13:46               ` John Jasen
2001-03-14 20:01             ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-03-16  9:11             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-03-14 19:16           ` Andreas Dilger
2001-03-14 20:08           ` John Jasen
2001-03-15  3:04         ` Stephen Degler
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-03-13 23:46 Wayne.Brown
2001-03-13 23:41 Douglas Gilbert
2001-03-13  4:36 Alan Cox
2001-03-13  6:28 ` Nathan Walp
2001-03-13 23:17 ` Michal Jaegermann
2001-03-13 23:38   ` Jeff Garzik

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