From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Peter Chubb <peter@chubb.wattle.id.au>
Cc: Patrick Mochel <mochel@osdl.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Switching from IOCTLs to a RAMFS
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:18:36 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3DBC825C.9060905@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15804.28536.3553.712306@wombat.chubb.wattle.id.au>
Peter Chubb wrote:
>>>>>>"Jeff" == Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>
>
>Jeff> Like I touched on in IRC, there is room for both sysfs and per-driver
>Jeff> filesystems.
>
>Jeff> I think just about everyone agrees that ioctls are a bad idea and a huge
>Jeff> maintenance annoyance.
>
>I note that the P1003.26 ballot has just been announced...
>
> Title: P1003.26: Information Technology -- Portable Operating
> System Interface (POSIX) -- Part 26: Device Control
> Application Program Interface (API) [C Language]
>
> Scope: This work will define an application program interface to
> device drivers. The interface will be modeled on the
> traditional ioctl() function, but will have enhancements
> designed to address issues such as "type safety" and
> reentrancy.
>
>
>It may be worth looking at what the draft standard says before
>committing to yet another interface specification.
>
>
Already looked at it. It's awful, and retains many of the problems that
ioctl(2) presents to kernel maintainers.
I sent a comment in to the only email address I could find describing
the issues (politely!), but as a mere peon I doubt it will have much
effect. The best we can do is ignore this POSIX junk and hope it goes
away...
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-10-28 0:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <717068543@toto.iv>
2002-10-27 22:58 ` Peter Chubb
2002-10-28 0:18 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2002-10-28 7:48 ` Kernel/userspace interfaces (was: Switching from IOCTLs to a RAMFS) Brad Hards
2002-10-24 16:23 Switching from IOCTLs to a RAMFS Mark Peloquin
2002-10-24 16:35 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-10-24 17:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-24 18:15 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-10-24 21:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-24 22:49 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-10-26 22:00 ` Jeff Garzik
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