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From: mingming cao <cmm@us.ibm.com>
To: dipankar@gamebox.net, Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH]updated ipc lock patch
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:07:23 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3DBDB51B.84F97EC1@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20021029013059.A13287@dikhow>

Dipankar Sarma wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 02:20:04AM +0100, Rusty Russell wrote:
> > Yes, nonsensical.  Firstly, it's in violation of the standard to fail
> > IPC_RMID under random circumstances.  Secondly, failing to clean up is
> > an unhandlable error, since you're quite possible in the failure path
> > of the code already.  This is a well known issue.
> 
> I am not sure how Ming/Hugh's current IPC changes affect IPC_RMID.
> It affects only when you are trying to add a new ipc. In fact,
> since it is a *add* operation (grow_ary()), it seems ok to fail it if rcu_head
> allocation fails. Feel free to correct me if I missed something here.
> AFAICS, the rcu stuff doesn't affect any freeing other than the IPC
> id array.
>

We extended the usage of RCU to IPC_RMID, to prevent ipc_lock()
returning an invalid IPC ID which has been removed by ioc_rmid.
 
> > It's a hacky, fragile and incorrect solution.  It's completely
> > tasteless.
> 
> Yes, the mempool code is broken, but only because rcu_backup_pool
> is created three times, one by each IPC mechanism init :-)
>

That's my bad, thanks for pointing this out. It's easy to fix if we
decide to go with mempool way.
 
> > Patch below is against Mingming's mm4 release.  Compiles, untested.
> > Rusty.
> 
> Yes, this is the typical RCU model, except that in this case (IPC),
> I am not quite sure if it is in effect that different from what Ming/Hugh
> have done.

Rusty's patch looks good to me. I would like to replace the mempool in
IPC with this typical RCU model. Rusty, if you like, I will make a patch
against mm6.  There need some cleanups. One thing is that ipc_alloc()
are called by other places(besides grow_ary()), and they don't need to
the RCU header structure. 

Mingming

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-10-28 22:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0210270748560.1704-100000@localhost.localdomain>
2002-10-28  1:06 ` Rusty Russell
2002-10-28 14:21   ` Hugh Dickins
2002-10-28 21:47     ` Rusty Russell
2002-10-29  0:03       ` [RFC][PATCH]ipc rcu alloc/free patch - mm6 mingming cao
2002-10-29  0:26       ` [PATCH]updated ipc lock patch Hugh Dickins
2002-10-29  2:51         ` Rusty Russell
2002-10-28 20:00   ` Dipankar Sarma
2002-10-28 21:41     ` Rusty Russell
2002-10-29  6:11       ` Dipankar Sarma
2002-10-28 22:07     ` mingming cao [this message]
2002-10-29  1:06       ` Rusty Russell
2002-10-28  1:15 Rusty Russell
2002-10-28  1:35 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-28  4:10   ` Rusty Russell
2002-10-28 17:08     ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-28 22:39       ` Rusty Russell
2002-10-28 23:52         ` Davide Libenzi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-10-25 17:20 Cliff White
2002-10-21 19:00 [PATCH]IPC locks breaking down with RCU Hugh Dickins
2002-10-24 21:49 ` [PATCH]updated ipc lock patch mingming cao
2002-10-24 22:29   ` Andrew Morton
2002-10-24 22:56     ` Hugh Dickins
2002-10-24 23:30       ` Andrew Morton
2002-10-24 23:59         ` Hugh Dickins
2002-10-25  0:07         ` mingming cao
2002-10-25  0:24           ` Andrew Morton
2002-10-25  4:18         ` Rusty Russell
2002-10-25  5:53           ` mingming cao
2002-10-25  7:27             ` Rusty Russell
2002-10-25  5:36         ` Manfred Spraul
2002-10-25 16:53         ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-24 23:23     ` mingming cao

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