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From: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re:  [RFT][PATCH] generic device DMA implementation
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 23:57:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E0CDABE.7000907@colorfullife.com> (raw)

>
>
>+
>+Consistent memory is memory for which a write by either the device or
>+the processor can immediately be read by the processor or device
>+without having to worry about caching effects.
>
This is not entirely correct:
The driver must use the normal memory barrier instructions even in 
coherent memory. Could you copy the section about wmb() from DMA-mapping 
into your new documentation?

+
+Warnings:  Memory coherency operates at a granularity called the cache
+line width.  In order for memory mapped by this API to operate
+correctly, the mapped region must begin exactly on a cache line
+boundary and end exactly on one (to prevent two separately mapped
+regions from sharing a single cache line).  Since the cache line size
+may not be known at compile time, the API will not enforce this
+requirement.  Therefore, it is recommended that driver writers who
+don't take special care to determine the cache line size at run time
+only map virtual regions that begin and end on page boundaries (which
+are guaranteed also to be cache line boundaries).
+

Noone obeys that rule, and it's not trivial to fix it.

- kmalloc (32,GFP_KERNEL) returns a 32-byte object, even if the cache line size is 128 bytes. The 4 objects in the cache line could be used by four different users.
- sendfile() with an odd offset.

Is it really impossible to work around that in the platform specific code?
In the worst case, the arch code could memcopy to/from a cacheline aligned buffer.


--
    Manfred


             reply	other threads:[~2002-12-27 22:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-12-27 22:57 Manfred Spraul [this message]
2002-12-27 23:55 ` James Bottomley
2002-12-28  0:20   ` Manfred Spraul
2002-12-28 16:26     ` James Bottomley
2002-12-28 17:54       ` Manfred Spraul
2002-12-28 18:13         ` James Bottomley
2002-12-28 18:25           ` Manfred Spraul
2002-12-28 18:40             ` James Bottomley
2002-12-28 20:05               ` Manfred Spraul
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-12-28 22:19 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-30 23:23 ` David Brownell
2002-12-28 20:11 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-28 15:41 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-28 16:59 ` David Brownell
2002-12-28  3:39 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-30  0:45 ` Alan Cox
2002-12-28  2:48 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-28 15:05 ` David Brownell
2002-12-27 20:21 David Brownell
2002-12-27 21:40 ` James Bottomley
2002-12-28  1:29   ` David Brownell
2002-12-28 16:18     ` James Bottomley
2002-12-28 18:16       ` David Brownell
2002-12-28  1:56   ` David Brownell
2002-12-28 16:13     ` James Bottomley
2002-12-28 17:41       ` David Brownell
2002-12-27 21:47 ` James Bottomley
2002-12-28  2:28   ` David Brownell
2002-12-18  3:01 James Bottomley
2002-12-18  3:13 ` David Mosberger
2002-12-28 18:14 ` Russell King
2002-12-28 18:19   ` James Bottomley

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