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From: Helge Hafting <helgehaf@aitel.hist.no>
To: Padraig@Linux.ie
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: gcc 2.95 vs 3.21 performance
Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 14:11:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E3FBC1C.167E779A@aitel.hist.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3E3F9C82.7000607@Linux.ie>

Padraig@Linux.ie wrote:
[...]
> Interesting. I just noticed that I get 50% decrease in
> the speed of my program if I just insert a printf(). I.E.
> my program is like:
> 
> printf()
> for(;;) {
>      do_sorting_loop_test();
> }
> 
> If I remove the initial printf it doubles in speed?
> I assume this is some weird caching thing?

Looks like a cacheline alignment issue to me.
This loop of yours occupy x cachelines on your cpu,
moving it in memory by adding the printf
might cause it to ocupy x+1 cachelines.
That might be noticeable if x is a really small number,
such as 1.

> gcc is 3.2.1 (same happens for 2.95..)
> 
> <boggle>
> Note this is with -O3. If I don't specify -O then
> leaving the printf in speeds things up by about 15%
> </boggle>

Sure - going from -O3 to -O changes code generation so
your loop code hits the cachelines differently.
In this case the printf moved the loop into
better alignment.

My advice is to put your test loop in a function of its own,
and do the printing in the function that calls it.
functions are always aligned the same (good) way so
that calling them will be fast.

You can tune the speed of your inner loop by experimenting
with the insertion of one or more NOP asms in front
of the loop.  Just be aware that all such tuning is wasted once
you change anything at all in that function - you'll have to
re-do the tuning each time. 

The compiler should ideally align the loops for maximum performance.
That can be hard though, considering all the different processors
that might run your program.  And aligning everything optimally
could waste a _lot_ of code space - so do this only for
small loops with lots of iterations.

Helge Hafting

  reply	other threads:[~2003-02-04 13:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-02-03 23:05 Martin J. Bligh
2003-02-03 23:22 ` [Lse-tech] " Andi Kleen
2003-02-03 23:31 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-02-04  0:43   ` J.A. Magallon
2003-02-04 13:42     ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-02-04 14:20       ` John Bradford
2003-02-04  6:54   ` Denis Vlasenko
2003-02-04  7:13     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-02-04 12:25       ` Adrian Bunk
2003-02-04 15:51         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-02-04 16:27           ` [Lse-tech] " Martin J. Bligh
2003-02-04 17:40             ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-02-04 17:55               ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-02-04  9:54     ` Bryan Andersen
2003-02-04 15:46       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-02-04 19:09     ` Timothy D. Witham
2003-02-04 19:35       ` John Bradford
2003-02-04 19:44         ` Dave Jones
2003-02-04 20:11           ` John Bradford
2003-02-04 20:20             ` John Bradford
2003-02-04 20:45             ` Herman Oosthuysen
2003-02-04 21:44               ` Timothy D. Witham
2003-02-05  7:15               ` Denis Vlasenko
2003-02-05 10:36                 ` Andreas Schwab
2003-02-05 11:41                   ` Denis Vlasenko
2003-02-05 12:20                     ` Dave Jones
2003-02-05 13:10                     ` [Lse-tech] " Dipankar Sarma
2003-02-05 15:30                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-02-04 21:38         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-04 21:54           ` John Bradford
2003-02-04 22:11             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-04 23:27               ` Timothy D. Witham
2003-02-04 23:21           ` Larry McVoy
2003-02-04 23:42             ` b_adlakha
2003-02-05  0:19               ` Andy Pfiffer
2003-02-04 23:51             ` Jakob Oestergaard
2003-02-05  1:03               ` Hugo Mills
2003-02-10 22:26               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-10 23:28                 ` J.A. Magallon
2003-02-04 23:51             ` Eli Carter
2003-02-05  0:27               ` Larry McVoy
2003-02-06 20:42                 ` Paul Jakma
2003-02-05  3:03             ` Tomas Szepe
2003-02-05  6:03             ` Mark Mielke
2003-02-07 16:09           ` Pavel Machek
2003-02-04 10:57   ` Padraig
2003-02-04 13:11     ` Helge Hafting [this message]
2003-02-04 13:29       ` Jörn Engel
2003-02-04 14:05       ` P
2003-02-04 20:36         ` Herman Oosthuysen
2003-02-04 12:20 ` [Lse-tech] " Dave Jones
2003-02-04 15:50   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-02-10 12:13     ` Momchil Velikov
2003-02-06 15:42 ` gcc -O2 vs gcc -Os performance Martin J. Bligh
2003-02-06 15:51   ` [Lse-tech] " Andi Kleen
2003-02-06 17:48   ` Alan Cox
2003-02-06 17:06     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-02-06 20:38     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-02-06 21:32       ` John Bradford
2003-02-06 22:12       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-06 22:58         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-02-06 23:16           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-06 23:59             ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-02-06 23:17       ` Roger Larsson
2003-02-06 23:33         ` Martin J. Bligh
     [not found] <1044385759.1861.46.camel@localhost.localdomain.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <200302041935.h14JZ69G002675@darkstar.example.net.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]   ` <b1pbt8$2ll$1@penguin.transmeta.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2003-02-04 22:05     ` gcc 2.95 vs 3.21 performance Andi Kleen
2003-02-04 22:14       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-05 10:04         ` Pavel Janík
2003-02-05 20:07           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-06 15:00           ` Horst von Brand
2003-02-04 22:59       ` Jeff Muizelaar
2003-02-04 23:12         ` b_adlakha
2003-02-05  8:41         ` Horst von Brand
2003-02-05 19:09         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-05 19:22           ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-02-05 19:24           ` John Bradford
2003-02-06  7:02         ` Neil Booth
     [not found]           ` <courier.3E423112.00007219@softhome.net>
     [not found]             ` <20030206212218.GA4891@daikokuya.co.uk>
2003-02-07 10:31               ` b_adlakha
2003-02-07 18:46                 ` Horst von Brand
2003-02-07 21:49                 ` Neil Booth
2003-02-10  2:14           ` Jeff Garzik
2003-02-10  9:19             ` Tomas Szepe
     [not found] <120432836@toto.iv>
2003-02-05  2:45 ` Peter Chubb
     [not found] <200302052021.h15KLrXv000881@darkstar.example.net>
2003-02-05 20:28 ` b_adlakha

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