From: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>
To: "D. Hazelton" <dhazelton@enter.net>
Cc: " Martin v. Löwis " <martin@v.loewis.de>,
7eggert@gmx.de, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Patch] Support UTF-8 scripts
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 23:45:56 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FEE1455-90E8-4855-9BA4-045A6EE5D82B@mac.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200509172231.33872.dhazelton@enter.net>
On Sep 17, 2005, at 18:31:33, D. Hazelton wrote:
> That, and my point remains that the kernel should know absolutely
> nothing about how to execute a text file - the kernel should return
> an error to the extent of "I don't know what to do with this file"
> to the shell that tries to execute it, and the shell can then check
> for the sh_bang. I do admit that this change would break a lot of
> existing code, so I'll leave the argument to the experts.
No, that would not work at all. We have a very nice system to allow
set-uid scripts (Specifically, I like my nice secure taint-mode set-
uid perl scripts). If you did this, they would break completely, not
to mention _add_ all sorts of unsolvable race conditions to the few
ways of working around such a lack of SUID scripts. Also, it means
that I can't just "mv /sbin/init /sbin/init.real ; vim /sbin/init" to
do a simple wrapper around the init program, I would need to write a
compiled C program to do all sorts of fragile hackish things like
calling a script /sbin/init.sh.
Cheers,
Kyle Moffett
--
There are two ways of constructing a software design. One way is to
make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies. And the
other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious
deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult.
-- C.A.R. Hoare
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2005-09-16 18:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-16 18:57 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-09-16 19:08 ` Martin Mares
2005-09-16 19:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-16 19:57 ` Horst von Brand
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2005-09-17 22:31 ` D. Hazelton
2005-09-18 3:45 ` Kyle Moffett [this message]
2005-09-19 0:14 ` D. Hazelton
2005-09-18 6:58 ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-09-19 0:31 ` D. Hazelton
2005-09-17 17:16 ` Bodo Eggert
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2005-09-16 22:45 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
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2005-09-17 22:28 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
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2005-09-18 19:23 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-09-18 21:03 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-09-19 19:37 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-09-18 22:29 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-09-19 6:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-19 4:54 ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-09-19 8:26 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-09-19 9:00 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
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2005-08-13 18:42 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-13 18:49 ` Hugo Mills
2005-08-13 18:53 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-14 0:57 ` Alan Cox
2005-08-14 1:19 ` Kyle Moffett
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2005-08-16 9:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
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2005-08-14 20:13 ` Stephen Pollei
2005-08-14 20:22 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-14 22:10 ` "Martin v. Löwis"
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