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From: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
To: Peter Osterlund <petero2@telia.com>
Cc: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
	Tim Connors <tconnors+linuxkernel1073186591@astro.swin.edu.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: xterm scrolling speed - scheduling weirdness in 2.6 ?!
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 13:50:49 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FFA2289.6060803@cyberone.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2ekudq080.fsf@telia.com>



Peter Osterlund wrote:

>Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au> writes:
>
>
>>Peter Osterlund wrote:
>>
>>
>>>But the scheduler is also far from fair in this situation. If I run
>>>
>>snip a good analysis...
>>
>>... but fairness is not about a set of numbers the scheduler gives to
>>each process, its about the amount of CPU time processes are given.
>>
>>In this case I don't know if I find it objectionable that X and xterm
>>are considered interactive and perl considered a CPU hog. What is the
>>actual problem?
>>
>
>The problem is that if perl would get only slightly more cpu time, it
>would get ahead of xterm, which would make this test case run
>something like 10 times faster than it currently does. (Because xterm
>switches to jump scrolling when it can't keep up.)
>
>I guess it would be possible to fix this by introducing a
>usleep(10000) at some strategic place in the xterm source code, but I
>still find it strange that two tasks eating 40% cpu time each are
>considered interactive, while a task eating 4% is considered a cpu
>hog, especially since the 4% task never got a chance to prove that it
>didn't want to steal all cpu time. All that was proven was that it
>wanted more than 4% of the cpu.
>
>Also, while my test case runs, other tasks (such as running "ps" from
>a network login) are very slow, at least until the extra load makes
>the scheduler realize that the two tasks eating most of the cpu time
>should not have maximum priority bonus.
>

OK yeah you are right. I perl should get more CPU time if it wants it.



  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-06  2:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0401031439060.24942-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2004-01-03 20:19 ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-03 21:00   ` Con Kolivas
2004-01-03 21:10     ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-03 21:15       ` Con Kolivas
2004-01-03 23:35         ` Willy Tarreau
2004-01-04  0:11           ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-04  1:42           ` Con Kolivas
2004-01-04  3:32             ` Tim Connors
2004-01-04  5:58               ` Con Kolivas
2004-01-06  1:09                 ` Peter Osterlund
2004-01-06  1:37                   ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-06  2:28                     ` Peter Osterlund
2004-01-06  2:50                       ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2004-01-06  6:27                       ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-05 22:25               ` Bryan Whitehead
2004-01-04  8:09             ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-04  8:49               ` Con Kolivas
2004-01-04 11:13                 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-01-04 11:24                   ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-04 12:45                   ` Con Kolivas
2004-01-04 14:42                     ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-01-04 18:40                       ` mikeg
2004-01-04 22:58                       ` szonyi calin
2004-01-04 23:33                         ` Willy Tarreau
2004-01-04 23:44                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-04 23:47                           ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-05  8:39                             ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-05 20:38                               ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-01-05  9:18                             ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-05 17:20                               ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-01-05 17:21                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-01-05  9:50                             ` Kenneth Johansson
2004-01-05 10:17                               ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-04-02 18:22                               ` solved (was Re: xterm scrolling speed - scheduling weirdness in 2.6 ?!) Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-04-03  5:35                                 ` Tim Connors
2004-04-03  6:06                                   ` Tim Connors
2004-04-03 14:11                                     ` Jamie Lokier
2004-01-05  8:26                         ` xterm scrolling speed - scheduling weirdness in 2.6 ?! Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-04  8:54               ` Lincoln Dale
2004-01-04  9:17                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-04 10:24                   ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-04 11:12                     ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-04 11:17                       ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-04 11:20                         ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-04 11:19                       ` Willy Tarreau
2004-01-05  0:48                         ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-04 11:46                   ` Nicks's scheduler's OK [was Re: xterm scrolling speed - scheduling weirdness in 2.6 ?!] Willy Tarreau
2004-01-04 12:07                   ` xterm scrolling speed - scheduling weirdness in 2.6 ?! Willy Tarreau
2004-01-05  0:51                     ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-05 18:37                       ` Willy Tarreau
2004-01-06  0:33                         ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-04 10:11                 ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-05 10:31                   ` venom
2004-01-03 21:18     ` Willy Tarreau
2004-01-03 21:39 Bob Gill
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0401031402210.24942-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2004-01-03 19:07 ` Soeren Sonnenburg
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-01-03 18:52 Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-03 19:19 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-01-04 20:47   ` Peter Chubb
2004-01-04 20:54     ` Willy TARREAU
2004-01-05  3:46       ` Peter Chubb

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