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From: Antonio Quartulli <antonio@openvpn.net>
To: Sabrina Dubroca <sd@queasysnail.net>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Donald Hunter <donald.hunter@gmail.com>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	ryazanov.s.a@gmail.com, Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	Xiao Liang <shaw.leon@gmail.com>,
	willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v16 07/26] ovpn: introduce the ovpn_socket object
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2025 11:55:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3a1349ac-acc2-4db5-a8e7-749cd471d3bc@openvpn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9634a1e1-6cc4-45ef-89d8-30d0e50ba319@openvpn.net>

On 06/01/2025 00:27, Antonio Quartulli wrote:
> Hi Sabrina,
> 
> On 03/01/2025 18:00, Sabrina Dubroca wrote:
>> Hello Antonio,
>>
>> 2024-12-19, 02:42:01 +0100, Antonio Quartulli wrote:
>>> +static void ovpn_socket_release_kref(struct kref *kref)
>>> +    __releases(sock->sock->sk)
>>> +{
>>> +    struct ovpn_socket *sock = container_of(kref, struct ovpn_socket,
>>> +                        refcount);
>>> +
>>
>> [extend with bits of patch 9]
>>>     /* UDP sockets are detached in this kref callback because
>>>      * we now know for sure that all concurrent users have
>>>      * finally gone (refcounter dropped to 0).
>>>      *
>>>      * Moreover, detachment is performed under lock to prevent
>>>      * a concurrent ovpn_socket_new() call with the same socket
>>>      * to find the socket still attached but with refcounter 0.
>>
>> I'm not convinced this really works, because ovpn_socket_new() doesn't
>> use the same lock. lock_sock and bh_lock_sock both "lock the socket"
>> in some sense, but they're not mutually exclusive (we talked about
>> that around the TCP patch).
> 
> You're right - but what prevents us from always using bh_lock_sock?
> 
>>
>> Are you fundamentally opposed to making attach permanent? ie, once
>> a UDP or TCP socket is assigned to an ovpn instance, it can't be
>> detached and reused. I think it would be safer, simpler, and likely
>> sufficient (I don't know openvpn much, but I don't see a use case for
>> moving a socket from one ovpn instance to another, or using it without
>> encap).
> 
> I hardly believe a socket will ever be moved to a different instance.
> There is no use case (and no userspace support) for that at the moment.

Actually, there might be situations where userspace may want to close 
and re-open the device, while keeping the original socket alive.

This means the socket should be able to be attached to a new device 
without being destroyed and re-opened again.

The refcount_dec with bh_lock_sock still seems to be the approach 
covering all cases, no?

Regards,


-- 
Antonio Quartulli
OpenVPN Inc.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-08 10:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-19  1:41 [PATCH net-next v16 00/26] Introducing OpenVPN Data Channel Offload Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-19  1:41 ` [PATCH net-next v16 01/26] net: introduce OpenVPN Data Channel Offload (ovpn) Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-19  1:41 ` [PATCH net-next v16 02/26] ovpn: add basic netlink support Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-20 11:00   ` Donald Hunter
2024-12-19  1:41 ` [PATCH net-next v16 03/26] ovpn: add basic interface creation/destruction/management routines Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-20 11:06   ` Donald Hunter
2024-12-19  1:41 ` [PATCH net-next v16 04/26] ovpn: keep carrier always on for MP interfaces Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-19  1:41 ` [PATCH net-next v16 05/26] ovpn: introduce the ovpn_peer object Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-19  1:42 ` [PATCH net-next v16 06/26] kref/refcount: implement kref_put_sock() Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-19 17:20   ` Will Deacon
2024-12-31  7:31     ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-19  1:42 ` [PATCH net-next v16 07/26] ovpn: introduce the ovpn_socket object Antonio Quartulli
2025-01-03 17:00   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2025-01-05 23:27     ` Antonio Quartulli
2025-01-08 10:55       ` Antonio Quartulli [this message]
2025-01-09 11:28       ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-12-19  1:42 ` [PATCH net-next v16 08/26] ovpn: implement basic TX path (UDP) Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-19  1:42 ` [PATCH net-next v16 09/26] ovpn: implement basic RX " Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-19  1:42 ` [PATCH net-next v16 10/26] ovpn: implement packet processing Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-19  1:42 ` [PATCH net-next v16 11/26] ovpn: store tunnel and transport statistics Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-19  1:42 ` [PATCH net-next v16 12/26] ipv6: export inet6_stream_ops via EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-19  1:42 ` [PATCH net-next v16 13/26] ovpn: implement TCP transport Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-19  1:42 ` [PATCH net-next v16 14/26] skb: implement skb_send_sock_locked_with_flags() Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-19  1:42 ` [PATCH net-next v16 15/26] ovpn: add support for MSG_NOSIGNAL in tcp_sendmsg Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-19  1:42 ` [PATCH net-next v16 16/26] ovpn: implement multi-peer support Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-19  1:42 ` [PATCH net-next v16 17/26] ovpn: implement peer lookup logic Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-19  1:42 ` [PATCH net-next v16 18/26] ovpn: implement keepalive mechanism Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-19  1:42 ` [PATCH net-next v16 19/26] ovpn: add support for updating local UDP endpoint Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-19  1:42 ` [PATCH net-next v16 20/26] ovpn: add support for peer floating Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-19  1:42 ` [PATCH net-next v16 21/26] ovpn: implement peer add/get/dump/delete via netlink Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-19  1:42 ` [PATCH net-next v16 22/26] ovpn: implement key add/get/del/swap " Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-19  1:42 ` [PATCH net-next v16 23/26] ovpn: kill key and notify userspace in case of IV exhaustion Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-19  1:42 ` [PATCH net-next v16 24/26] ovpn: notify userspace when a peer is deleted Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-19  1:42 ` [PATCH net-next v16 25/26] ovpn: add basic ethtool support Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-19  1:42 ` [PATCH net-next v16 26/26] testing/selftests: add test tool and scripts for ovpn module Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-20  4:02   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-31  7:42     ` Antonio Quartulli

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