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From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: "Adivi, Sai Sree Kartheek" <s-adivi@ti.com>,
	m.szyprowski@samsung.com, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: vigneshr@ti.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] dma/pool: respect __GFP_NOWARN in dma_alloc_from_pool()
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2026 15:02:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3a8f32c8-a5e5-4e6c-8af1-dbf0ff22b966@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d27d0a15-36a6-4399-a904-b0163804298d@ti.com>

On 2026-01-13 8:45 am, Adivi, Sai Sree Kartheek wrote:
> 
> 
> On 1/12/2026 7:43 PM, Robin Murphy wrote:
>> On 2026-01-12 10:47 am, Sai Sree Kartheek Adivi wrote:
>>> Currently, dma_alloc_from_pool() unconditionally warns and dumps a stack
>>> trace when an allocation fails.
>>>
>>> This prevents callers from using the __GFP_NOWARN flag to suppress error
>>> messages, breaking the expectation that this flag will silence
>>> allocation failure logs.
>>
>> This is not an "allocation failure" in that sense, though. It's not 
>> like the caller has opportunistically requested a large allocation, 
>> and is happy to try again with a smaller size - if someone has asked 
>> for an allocation in atomic context that can only be satisfied from an 
>> atomic pool, and there is no atomic pool at all, that points at 
>> something being more fundamentally wrong with the system, in a manner 
>> that the caller probably isn't expecting.
>>
>> Under what circumstances are you seeing the warning without things 
>> being totally broken anyway?
> 
> Hi Robin,
> 
> To clarify this specific circumstance: I am testing a dmaengine driver 
> using the in-kernel crypto test framework, which generates a synthetic 
> high load.
> 
> The driver attempts to allocate descriptors in an atomic context using 
> GFP_NOWAIT. When the atomic pool is exhausted under this stress, we want 
> to return NULL silently so the driver can gracefully handle the back 
> pressure by either:
> 1. Falling back to non-DMA (PIO) mode, or
> 2. Triggering dmaengine_synchronize() to allow async threads to actually 
> free up used descriptors.
> 
> Since the driver implements a valid fallback for this exhaustion, the 
> current unconditional WARN generates false alarms in the log.
> 
> This change would align dma_pool behavior with the core page allocator. 
> For example, warn_alloc() in mm/page_alloc.c explicitly checks for 
> __GFP_NOWARN to allow callers to suppress failure messages when they 
> have a recovery path.

Oof, apologies - looking again at the code in context, now I finally see 
what the bug really is: this warning still serves its original purpose, 
but due to the refactoring in 9420139f516d indeed it's *also* ended up 
in the path where the correct pool was found but was simply unable to 
satisfy the allocation. I agree that's not right - we never used to warn 
on an actual gen_pool_alloc() failure either way, so whether we have a 
suppressible (and more appropriately worded) warning for that condition 
I'm not too fussed. However, what I don't want to do is go too far the 
other way and lose the intended message when the requested allocation 
flags could *never* be satisfied by the current system configuration.

What distracted me is that I think the latter can be falsely reported 
for __GFP_DMA32 on a system where CONFIG_ZONE_DMA32 is enabled, but all 
the memory is in ZONE_DMA, so I was wondering whether your system was in 
that situation. The other series I sent should fix that.

> However if you feel the atomic pool should strictly not support silent 
> failures, the alternative would be for the driver to manually track its 
> own usage against the pool size and stop allocating before hitting the 
> limit. We prefer the __GFP_NOWARN approach as it avoids duplicating 
> resource tracking logic in the driver.

Eww, no, that would be far worse :) Just untangling the "failed to 
allocate from a valid pool" condition from the "failed to find an 
appropriate pool at all" one in this code is fine!

Thanks,
Robin.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-13 15:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-12 10:47 Sai Sree Kartheek Adivi
2026-01-12 14:13 ` Robin Murphy
2026-01-13  8:45   ` Adivi, Sai Sree Kartheek
2026-01-13 15:02     ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2026-01-22 10:06       ` Sai Sree Kartheek Adivi

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