From: "Shah, Amit" <Amit.Shah@amd.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] x86: cpu/bugs: add support for AMD ERAPS feature
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 17:22:12 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3ac6da4a8586014925057a413ce46407b9699fa9.camel@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53c918b4-2e03-4f68-b3f3-d18f62d5805c@intel.com>
On Mon, 2024-11-04 at 08:26 -0800, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 11/4/24 08:13, Shah, Amit wrote:
> > I want to justify that not setting X86_FEATURE_RSB_CTXSW is still
> > doing
> > the right thing, albeit in hardware.
>
> Let's back up a bit.
>
> In the kernel, we have security concerns if RSB contents remain
> across
> context switches. If process A's RSB entries are left and then
> process
> B uses them, there's a problem.
>
> Today, we mitigate that issue with manual kernel RSB state zapping on
> context switches (X86_FEATURE_RSB_CTXSW).
>
> You're saying that this fancy new ERAPS feature includes a new
> mechanism
> to zap RSB state. But that only triggers "each time a TLB flush
> happens".
>
> So what you're saying above is that you are concerned about RSB
> contents
> sticking around across context switches. But instead of using
> X86_FEATURE_RSB_CTXSW, you believe that the new TLB-flush-triggered
> ERAPS flush can be used instead.
>
> Are we all on the same page so far?
All good so far.
> I think you're wrong. We can't depend on ERAPS for this. Linux
> doesn't
> flush the TLB on context switches when PCIDs are in play. Thus,
> ERAPS
> won't flush the RSB and will leave bad state in there and will leave
> the
> system vulnerable.
>
> Or what am I missing?
I just received confirmation from our hardware engineers on this too:
1. the RSB is flushed when CR3 is updated
2. the RSB is flushed when INVPCID is issued (except type 0 - single
address).
I didn't mention 1. so far, which led to your question, right? Does
this now cover all the cases?
Amit
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-04 17:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-31 15:39 [PATCH 0/2] Add support for the " Amit Shah
2024-10-31 15:39 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86: cpu/bugs: add support for AMD " Amit Shah
2024-10-31 23:03 ` Pawan Gupta
2024-11-04 8:57 ` Shah, Amit
2024-11-04 14:52 ` Andrew Cooper
2024-11-04 15:00 ` Shah, Amit
2024-10-31 23:11 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-04 8:58 ` Shah, Amit
2024-11-04 16:11 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-04 16:13 ` Shah, Amit
2024-11-04 16:26 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-04 17:22 ` Shah, Amit [this message]
2024-11-04 17:45 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-05 0:04 ` Andrew Cooper
2024-11-05 10:39 ` Shah, Amit
2024-11-05 14:54 ` Kaplan, David
2024-11-05 16:19 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-05 16:25 ` Shah, Amit
2024-11-04 5:40 ` [tip: x86/cpu] x86/bugs: Add " tip-bot2 for Amit Shah
2024-10-31 15:39 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86: kvm: svm: add support for ERAPS and FLUSH_RAP_ON_VMRUN Amit Shah
2024-10-31 23:13 ` Pawan Gupta
2024-11-01 4:14 ` kernel test robot
2024-11-01 9:26 ` Amit Shah
2024-11-04 5:18 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-11-04 11:16 ` Shah, Amit
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