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From: "Moger, Babu" <bmoger@amd.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
	Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>,
	tony.luck@intel.com, Dave.Martin@arm.com, james.morse@arm.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com
Cc: x86@kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	peternewman@google.com, eranian@google.com,
	gautham.shenoy@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] x86/resctrl: Fix miscount of bandwidth event when reactivating previously Unavailable RMID
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2025 18:37:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3ad9c3ff-12be-47b8-8bcc-fdf4f1e8fbb7@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9771a165-e7dc-4e34-960c-37b17bd996b6@intel.com>

Hi Reinette,

On 10/10/2025 4:20 PM, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Babu,
> 
> On 10/10/25 10:08 AM, Babu Moger wrote:
>> Users can create as many monitoring groups as the number of RMIDs supported
>> by the hardware. However, on AMD systems, only a limited number of RMIDs
>> are guaranteed to be actively tracked by the hardware. RMIDs that exceed
>> this limit are placed in an "Unavailable" state. When a bandwidth counter
>> is read for such an RMID, the hardware sets MSR_IA32_QM_CTR.Unavailable
>> (bit 62). When such an RMID starts being tracked again the hardware counter
>> is reset to zero. MSR_IA32_QM_CTR.Unavailable remains set on first read
>> after tracking re-starts and is clear on all subsequent reads as long as
>> the RMID is tracked.
>>
>> resctrl miscounts the bandwidth events after an RMID transitions from the
>> "Unavailable" state back to being tracked. This happens because when the
>> hardware starts counting again after resetting the counter to zero, resctrl
>> in turn compares the new count against the counter value stored from the
>> previous time the RMID was tracked. This results in resctrl computing an
>> event value that is either undercounting (when new counter is more than
>> stored counter) or a mistaken overflow (when new counter is less than
>> stored counter).
>>
>> Reset the stored value (arch_mbm_state::prev_msr) of MSR_IA32_QM_CTR to
>> zero whenever the RMID is in the "Unavailable" state to ensure accurate
>> counting after the RMID resets to zero when it starts to be tracked again.
>>
>> Example scenario that results in mistaken overflow
>> ==================================================
>> 1. The resctrl filesystem is mounted, and a task is assigned to a
>>     monitoring group.
>>
>>     $mount -t resctrl resctrl /sys/fs/resctrl
>>     $mkdir /sys/fs/resctrl/mon_groups/test1/
>>     $echo 1234 > /sys/fs/resctrl/mon_groups/test1/tasks
>>
>>     $cat /sys/fs/resctrl/mon_groups/test1/mon_data/mon_L3_*/mbm_total_bytes
>>     21323            <- Total bytes on domain 0
>>     "Unavailable"    <- Total bytes on domain 1
>>
>>     Task is running on domain 0. Counter on domain 1 is "Unavailable".
>>
>> 2. The task runs on domain 0 for a while and then moves to domain 1. The
>>     counter starts incrementing on domain 1.
>>
>>     $cat /sys/fs/resctrl/mon_groups/test1/mon_data/mon_L3_*/mbm_total_bytes
>>     7345357          <- Total bytes on domain 0
>>     4545             <- Total bytes on domain 1
>>
>> 3. At some point, the RMID in domain 0 transitions to the "Unavailable"
>>     state because the task is no longer executing in that domain.
>>
>>     $cat /sys/fs/resctrl/mon_groups/test1/mon_data/mon_L3_*/mbm_total_bytes
>>     "Unavailable"    <- Total bytes on domain 0
>>     434341           <- Total bytes on domain 1
>>
>> 4.  Since the task continues to migrate between domains, it may eventually
>>      return to domain 0.
>>
>>      $cat /sys/fs/resctrl/mon_groups/test1/mon_data/mon_L3_*/mbm_total_bytes
>>      17592178699059  <- Overflow on domain 0
>>      3232332         <- Total bytes on domain 1
>>
>> In this case, the RMID on domain 0 transitions from "Unavailable" state to
>> active state. The hardware sets MSR_IA32_QM_CTR.Unavailable (bit 62) when
>> the counter is read and begins tracking the RMID counting from 0.
>> Subsequent reads succeed but returns a value smaller than the previously
>> saved MSR value (7345357). Consequently, the resctrl's overflow logic is
>> triggered, it compares the previous value (7345357) with the new, smaller
>> value and incorrectly interprets this as a counter overflow, adding a large
>> delta. In reality, this is a false positive: the counter did not overflow
>> but was simply reset when the RMID transitioned from "Unavailable" back to
>> active state.
>>
>> Here is the text from APM [1] available from [2].
>>
>> "In PQOS Version 2.0 or higher, the MBM hardware will set the U bit on the
>> first QM_CTR read when it begins tracking an RMID that it was not
>> previously tracking. The U bit will be zero for all subsequent reads from
>> that RMID while it is still tracked by the hardware. Therefore, a QM_CTR
>> read with the U bit set when that RMID is in use by a processor can be
>> considered 0 when calculating the difference with a subsequent read."
>>
>> [1] AMD64 Architecture Programmer's Manual Volume 2: System Programming
>>      Publication # 24593 Revision 3.41 section 19.3.3 Monitoring L3 Memory
>>      Bandwidth (MBM).
>>
>> Fixes: 4d05bf71f157d ("x86/resctrl: Introduce AMD QOS feature")
>> Signed-off-by: Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>
>> Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org # needs adjustments for <= v6.17
>> Link: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=206537 # [2]
>> ---
>> v4: Removed switch and replaced with if else in the code. Tested again.
>>      Removed a stray tab in changelog.
>>
>> v3: Rephrasing changelog considering undercounting problem.
>>      Checked again for special charactors (grep -P '[^\t\n\x20-\x7E]').
>>      Removed few of them now. Thanks Reinette.
>>
>> v2: Fixed few systax issues.
>>      Checked for special charachars.
>>      Added Fixes tag.
>>      Added CC to stable kernel.
>>      Rephrased most of the changelog.
>>
>> v1: Tested this on multiple AMD systems, but not on Intel systems.
>>      Need help with that. If everything goes well, this patch needs to go
>>      to all the stable kernels.
> 
> The behavior of the counter is different on Intel where there are enough
> counters backing the RMID and the "Unavailable" bit is not set when counter
> starts counting but instead the counter returns "0". For example, when
> running equivalent of "step 1" on an Intel system it looks like:
> 
> 	# cd /sys/fs/resctrl
> 	# mkdir mon_groups/test1
> 	# echo $$ > mon_groups/test1/tasks
> 	# cat mon_groups/test1/mon_data/*/mbm_total_bytes
> 	0
> 	1835008
> 

Thanks. That is good to know.

> I am not aware of resctrl being able to trigger an Unavailable counter via
> these counter registers on existing Intel hardware and as a consequence do
> not expect this new flow (ret == -EINVAL) to be triggered on Intel. There may
> be some differences with RDT MMIO counters that I need to look into but since
> that is not supported by resctrl yet it is not relevant to this fix.
> 
> Tested-by: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
> Reviewed-by: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
> 

Thanks. Much appreciated.
- Babu Moger


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-10 23:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-10 17:08 Babu Moger
2025-10-10 21:20 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-10 23:37   ` Moger, Babu [this message]
2025-10-13 15:35     ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-13 18:16       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-13 19:36 ` [tip: x86/urgent] x86/resctrl: Fix miscount of bandwidth event when reactivating previously unavailable RMID tip-bot2 for Babu Moger

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