From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
To: "Kurt Borja" <kuurtb@gmail.com>,
"Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Lyndon Sanche <lsanche@lyndeno.ca>,
Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>,
platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] platform/x86: dell-pc: Transition to faux device
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 19:05:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3ae149b5-a936-45b4-8887-eb7cde1ee4b0@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D9E5H5B9X448.12FJT48775C50@gmail.com>
Hi Kurt,
On 23-Apr-25 6:14 PM, Kurt Borja wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> On Wed Apr 23, 2025 at 10:44 AM -03, Hans de Goede wrote:
>> Hi Ilpo,
>>
>> On 23-Apr-25 3:27 PM, Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
>>> On Fri, 11 Apr 2025, Kurt Borja wrote:
>>>
>>>> Use a faux device parent for registering the platform_profile instead of
>>>> a "fake" platform device.
>>>>
>>>> The faux bus is a minimalistic, single driver bus designed for this
>>>> purpose.
>>>
>>> Hi Kurt, Hans & Greg,
>>>
>>> I'm not sure about this change. So dell-pc not a platform device but
>>> a "fake".
>>
>> Arguably the dell-pc driver does not need a struct device at all,
>> since it just exports /sys/firmware/acpi/platform_profile sysfs
>> interface by using the relevant Dell SMBIOS interfaces for this.
>>
>> As such maybe we should just completely get rid of the whole
>> struct device here?
>>
>> If we do decide to keep the struct device, then since the struct device
>> seems to just be there to tie the lifetime of the platform_profile
>> handler to, I guess that calling it a faux device is fair.
>
> I think it's important to mention that a parent device is required to
> register a platform profile, see [1].
Ah ok, that is new, I guess that was changed with the new support
for registering multiple platform-profile handlers.
> I guess we could get away with removing the device altogether from here,
> but that would require to find another suitable parent device. The
> obvious choice would be the `dell-smbios` device, however that would
> require exporting it in the first place.
>
> For some reason, exporting devices doesn't seem right to me, so IMO a
> faux device is a good choice here.
Agreed.
> Another solution that would make more sense, lifetime wise, is to turn
> this into an aux driver and let `dell-smbios` create the matching aux
> device. I could do this, but I think it's overly complicated.
Yes that does seem overly complicated, lets just go with the faux
device.
Regards,
Hans
>>> Is it just because this driver only happens to call
>>> dell_send_request(), etc., not contains that low-level access code within?
>>> Or is that dell-smbios "fake" too?
>
> IMO `dell-smbios` is "fake" too? It is there only to expose either the
> WMI or the SMM backend through a single sysfs interface.
>
> I think a more natural design for `dell-smbios` would be an aux driver
> that exposed it's interface through a class device. Maybe I'm wrong in
> this regard though.
>
> [1] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.15-rc3/source/drivers/acpi/platform_profile.c#L556
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-23 17:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-11 14:36 [PATCH 0/3] " Kurt Borja
2025-04-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 1/3] platform/x86: dell-pc: Propagate errors when detecting feature support Kurt Borja
2025-04-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 2/3] platform/x86: dell-pc: Use non-atomic bitmap operations Kurt Borja
2025-04-11 14:36 ` [PATCH 3/3] platform/x86: dell-pc: Transition to faux device Kurt Borja
2025-04-23 13:27 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-04-23 13:44 ` Hans de Goede
2025-04-23 13:59 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-04-23 14:12 ` Lyndon Sanche
2025-04-23 16:14 ` Kurt Borja
2025-04-23 17:05 ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2025-04-24 11:57 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-04-25 7:48 ` Kurt Borja
2025-04-25 11:50 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-04-24 14:06 ` [PATCH 0/3] " Ilpo Järvinen
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