From: Christian Schrefl <chrisi.schrefl@gmail.com>
To: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Lee Jones" <lee@kernel.org>,
"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>
Cc: "Gerald Wisböck" <gerald.wisboeck@feather.ink>,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/3] rust: miscdevice: add additional data to MiscDeviceRegistration
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 16:57:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3c1c0563-7f48-4222-a28d-316f885bcad4@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DADAEIT9E1R8.1J69W5DKYAQGY@kernel.org>
On 04.06.25 1:29 AM, Benno Lossin wrote:
> On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 11:16 PM CEST, Christian Schrefl wrote:
>> On 31.05.25 2:23 PM, Benno Lossin wrote:
>>> On Fri May 30, 2025 at 10:46 PM CEST, Christian Schrefl wrote:
>>>> +// SAFETY:
>>>> +// - All `&self` methods on this type are written to ensure that it is safe to call them in
>>>> +// parallel.
>>>> +// - `MiscDevice::RegistrationData` is always `Sync`.
>>>> +unsafe impl<T: MiscDevice> Sync for MiscDeviceRegistration<T> {}
>>>
>>> I would feel better if we still add the `T::RegistrationData: Sync`
>>> bound here even if it is vacuous today.
>>
>> Since a reference the `MiscDeviceRegistration` struct is an
>> argument to the open function this struct must always be Sync,
>> so adding bounds here doesn't make much sense.
>
> Well yes, but this statement makes `MiscDeviceRegistration` be `Sync`
> even if `T::RegistrationData` is not `Sync` if that bound got removed
> at some point. And this "instability" is what I'm worried about.
>
>> I'll add this a safety comment in `MiscdeviceVTable::open`
>> about this.
>>
>> Is there a good way to assert this at build to avoid regessions?
>
> const _: () = {
> fn assert_sync<T: ?Sized + Sync>() {}
> fn ctx<T: MiscDevice>() {
> assert_sync::<T::RegistrationData>();
> }
> };
>
I'll add the bound and a TODO about `assert_sync`, in `open`
where `Send` is required.
I intend to write a patch for `assert_sync` later.
> That would also be fine with me if you insist on not adding the bound.
>
> (the `assert_sync` function should maybe be somewhere where everyone can
> use it)
>
>>>> impl<T: MiscDevice> MiscDeviceRegistration<T> {
>>>> /// Register a misc device.
>>>> - pub fn register(opts: MiscDeviceOptions) -> impl PinInit<Self, Error> {
>>>> + pub fn register(
>>>> + opts: MiscDeviceOptions,
>>>> + data: impl PinInit<T::RegistrationData, Error>,
>>>> + ) -> impl PinInit<Self, Error> {
>>>> try_pin_init!(Self {
>>>> + data <- Opaque::pin_init(data),
>>>> inner <- Opaque::try_ffi_init(move |slot: *mut bindings::miscdevice| {
>>>> // SAFETY: The initializer can write to the provided `slot`.
>>>> unsafe { slot.write(opts.into_raw::<T>()) };
>>>>
>>>> - // SAFETY: We just wrote the misc device options to the slot. The miscdevice will
>>>> - // get unregistered before `slot` is deallocated because the memory is pinned and
>>>> - // the destructor of this type deallocates the memory.
>>>> + // SAFETY:
>>>> + // * We just wrote the misc device options to the slot. The miscdevice will
>>>> + // get unregistered before `slot` is deallocated because the memory is pinned and
>>>> + // the destructor of this type deallocates the memory.
>>>> + // * `data` is Initialized before `misc_register` so no race with `fops->open()`
>>>> + // is possible.
>>>> // INVARIANT: If this returns `Ok(())`, then the `slot` will contain a registered
>>>> // misc device.
>>>> to_result(unsafe { bindings::misc_register(slot) })
>>>> @@ -93,13 +108,24 @@ pub fn device(&self) -> &Device {
>>>> // before the underlying `struct miscdevice` is destroyed.
>>>> unsafe { Device::as_ref((*self.as_raw()).this_device) }
>>>> }
>>>> +
>>>> + /// Access the additional data stored in this registration.
>>>> + pub fn data(&self) -> &T::RegistrationData {
>>>> + // SAFETY:
>>>> + // * No mutable reference to the value contained by `self.data` can ever be created.
>>>> + // * The value contained by `self.data` is valid for the entire lifetime of `&self`.
>>>
>>> Please add type invariants for these two requirements.
>>>
>>>> + unsafe { &*self.data.get() }
>>>> + }
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> #[pinned_drop]
>>>> -impl<T> PinnedDrop for MiscDeviceRegistration<T> {
>>>> +impl<T: MiscDevice> PinnedDrop for MiscDeviceRegistration<T> {
>>>> fn drop(self: Pin<&mut Self>) {
>>>> // SAFETY: We know that the device is registered by the type invariants.
>>>> unsafe { bindings::misc_deregister(self.inner.get()) };
>>>> +
>>>> + // SAFETY: `self.data` is valid for dropping and nothing uses it anymore.
>>>
>>> Ditto.
>>
>> I'm not quite sure how to formulate these, what do you think of:
>>
>> /// - `inner` is a registered misc device.
>
> This doesn't really mean something to me, maybe it's better to reference
> the registering function?
That is from previous code so this should probably not be changed
in this series.
>
>> /// - `data` contains a valid `T::RegistrationData` for the whole lifetime of [`MiscDeviceRegistration`]
>
> This sounds good. But help me understand, why do we need `Opaque` /
> `UnsafePinned` again? If we're only using shared references, then we
> could also just store the object by value?
Since the Module owns the `MiscDeviceRegistration` it may create `&mut MiscDeviceRegistration`,
so from what I understand having a `& RegistrationData` reference into that is UB without
`UnsafePinned` (or `Opaque` since that includes `UnsafePinned` semantics).
>
>> /// - `data` must be usable until `misc_deregister` (called when dropped) has returned.
>
> What does "usable" mean?
I guess valid / alive might be better wording?
I meant to say that the `fops` functions might use the `RegistrationData` until
`misc_deregister` has returned so we must ensure that these accesses are allowed.
>
>> /// - no mutable references to `data` may be created.
>
>>>> + unsafe { core::ptr::drop_in_place(self.data.get()) };
>>>> }
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> @@ -109,6 +135,13 @@ pub trait MiscDevice: Sized {
>>>> /// What kind of pointer should `Self` be wrapped in.
>>>> type Ptr: ForeignOwnable + Send + Sync;
>>>>
>>>> + /// The additional data carried by the [`MiscDeviceRegistration`] for this [`MiscDevice`].
>>>> + /// If no additional data is required than the unit type `()` should be used.
>>>> + ///
>>>> + /// This data can be accessed in [`MiscDevice::open()`] using
>>>> + /// [`MiscDeviceRegistration::data()`].
>>>> + type RegistrationData: Sync;
>>>
>>> Why do we require `Sync` here?
>>
>> Needed for `MiscDeviceRegistration` to be `Send`, see response above.
>
> You could also just ask the type there to be `Sync`, then users will get
> an error when they try to use `MiscDevice` in a way where
> `RegistrationData` is required to be `Sync`.
I don't think there is any point to allow defining a `MiscDevice` implementation
that cant actually be used/registered.
>
>>> We might want to give this a shorter name?
>>
>> I think its fine, but I am open to Ideas.
>
> `Data`?
I feel that `Data` is just very ambiguous, especially since it is associated with
`MiscDevice` not the `MiscDeviceRegistration` in which its used.
One Idea I've had was `AssociatedData` but that's less clear and not much shorter
than `RegistrationData`.
But I'd be alright to just with `Data` if that is wanted.
Cheers
Christian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-05 14:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-30 20:46 [PATCH v4 0/3] " Christian Schrefl
2025-05-30 20:46 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] rust: implement `Wrapper<T>` for `Opaque<T>` Christian Schrefl
2025-05-30 20:53 ` Christian Schrefl
2025-05-30 21:43 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-30 20:46 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] rust: miscdevice: add additional data to MiscDeviceRegistration Christian Schrefl
2025-05-31 12:23 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-02 21:16 ` Christian Schrefl
2025-06-03 23:29 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-04 8:48 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-06-04 9:54 ` Christian Schrefl
2025-06-04 10:13 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-06-05 14:57 ` Christian Schrefl [this message]
2025-06-05 16:05 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-05 16:52 ` Christian Schrefl
2025-06-05 17:27 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-07 11:34 ` Christian Schrefl
2025-06-07 15:37 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-07 15:39 ` Christian Schrefl
2025-06-07 19:05 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-04 9:40 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-06-04 9:42 ` Christian Schrefl
2025-06-04 9:43 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-06-04 9:37 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-06-04 9:41 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-30 20:46 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] rust: miscdevice: adjust the rust_misc_device sample to use RegistrationData Christian Schrefl
2025-05-31 12:27 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-31 13:40 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-06-02 21:20 ` Christian Schrefl
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