From: Viktor Malik <vmalik@redhat.com>
To: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>, Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
James Clark <james.clark@linaro.org>,
Howard Chu <howardchu95@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
Michael Petlan <mpetlan@redhat.com>,
stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] perf trace: Refactor augmented_raw_syscalls using bpf_loop
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2026 14:05:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3c221e35-d642-4036-88fd-d25df7f8807e@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ajwu7xR6V6MAQOFw@google.com>
On 6/24/26 21:24, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2026 at 08:47:38AM +0200, Viktor Malik wrote:
>> On 6/23/26 19:10, Namhyung Kim wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2026 at 08:27:39AM -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>>>> On Tue Jun 23, 2026 at 4:25 AM PDT, Viktor Malik wrote:
> [SNIP]
>>>>> + struct args_loop_ctx loop_ctx = {
>>>>> + .args = args,
>>>>> + .beauty_map = beauty_map,
>>>>> + .payload_offset = payload_offset,
>>>>> + .value_size = value_size,
>>>>> + .output = &output,
>>>>> + .do_output = &do_output
>>>>> + };
>>>>> + iters = bpf_loop(6, process_arg_cb, &loop_ctx, 0);
>>>>
>>>> bpf_loop() is old and generally not recommended.
>>>> Please use bpf_for() then the diff will be one line change and
>>>> can scale to any number of args. Not just 6.
>>
>> Thanks Alexei, I didn't know about this preference.
>>
>>> One thing we should take care is to support old kernels. The oldest
>>> LTS kernel in the kernel.org is 5.10 and bpf_loop() was introduced in
>>> 5.17 and bpf_for (bpf_iter_num) was 6.4.
>>
>> The problematic loop was introduced in 6.12 by a68fd6a6cdd3 ("perf
>> trace: Collect augmented data using BPF") so we should be good using
>> bpf_for. Or is perf from 7.2 supposed to work on 5.10 LTS kernels?
>
> Yep, we'd like to support old kernels.
How much strict are you on this requirement? IMHO, the very least we
need to fix the verifier issue is bpf_loop, so that would still not work
on 5.10 and 5.15 LTS kernels.
We could probably keep the open-coded loop in case bpf_loop is not
available but `perf trace` would still fail on kernels without bpf_loop
for new perf built with Clang>=22. Also, the code would be a bit ugly
and I'm not sure how well the feature check for helpers (bpf_loop) works
on old kernels.
Viktor
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-25 12:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-23 11:25 Viktor Malik
2026-06-23 15:27 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-06-23 17:10 ` Namhyung Kim
2026-06-24 6:47 ` Viktor Malik
2026-06-24 10:27 ` Viktor Malik
2026-06-24 17:19 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-06-25 11:58 ` Viktor Malik
2026-06-25 17:55 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-06-26 6:04 ` Viktor Malik
2026-07-01 18:06 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-07-03 8:59 ` Viktor Malik
2026-06-24 19:24 ` Namhyung Kim
2026-06-25 12:05 ` Viktor Malik [this message]
2026-06-29 20:35 ` Namhyung Kim
2026-06-30 5:42 ` Viktor Malik
2026-07-01 6:12 ` Viktor Malik
2026-07-02 0:00 ` Namhyung Kim
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