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From: Jiayuan Chen <jiayuan.chen@linux.dev>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Jiayuan Chen <jiayuan.chen@shopee.com>,
	Zhou Yingfu <yingfu.zhou@shopee.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/oom_kill: fix hung tasks queued on mmap_lock behind a long reap
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2026 16:13:11 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3c8d1d8e-0e67-4d1a-b73d-4eadd6266aa6@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aqjsPW92SgcHONKO@tiehlicka>


On 9/15/26 2:57 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Mon 14-09-26 20:35:33, Andrew Morton wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Sep 2026 20:36:16 +0200 Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Call Trace:
>>>>   <TASK>
>>>>   __schedule+0x487/0x1870
>>>>   schedule+0x28/0xb0
>>>>   schedule_preempt_disabled+0x16/0x30
>>>>   rwsem_down_write_slowpath+0x1d4/0x750
>>>>   down_write+0x60/0x70
>>>>   __ksm_exit+0xb4/0x230
>>>>   __mmput+0x12c/0x150
>>>>   mmput+0x1e/0x30
>>>>   do_exit+0x283/0xa30
>>>>   do_group_exit+0x34/0x90
>>>>   get_signal+0x952/0x960
>>>>   arch_do_signal_or_restart+0x41/0x250
>>>>   exit_to_user_mode_loop+0xd3/0x560
>>>>   do_syscall_64+0x385/0x470
>>>>   </TASK>
>>>>
>>>> KSM is just the one LTP happened to hit: __khugepaged_exit() has the
>>>> same write lock cycle ahead of exit_mmap().
>>> Why is this a practical problem we need to care about? It is kind of
>>> natural that the oom victim exit path might race with the oom reaper. They
>>> share the same lock that is mutualy exclusive. The whole point of the
>>> reaper is to ensure there is a forward progress achieved. So before we
>>> start modifying this let's talk about any practical/real life problems.

Hi Michal, Andrew

Agreed, the hung task warning itself is harmless, especially for a dying
task. The real problems are what sits behind it.

With a 500G swapped-out victim the reap takes ~600s, and for all of it:

1. The victim cannot exit. __ksm_exit() needs mmap_lock for write and
  queues behind the reaper, so the process stays alive in D state for
  10 minutes and whoever waits for it (parent, container runtime)
  waits too.

2. ksmd and khugepaged stall. Once that writer is queued, their
  mmap_read_lock() on this mm queues as well, so both daemons stop
  for the whole system for the same ~600s.

With the patch they wait for one 1G chunk at most, and since exit_mmap()
now frees alongside the reaper, the victim's memory is gone in 264s
instead of ~600s. The reaper still never blocks on mmap_lock and still
makes progress on every pass, so forward progress is not changed.



>> If this situation is expected, unavoidable etc then perhaps the best
>> change is to periodically poke the hung-task detector?
> Right. Reaping 10s of GBs worth of VMAs might take some time indeed and
> that could trigger the hung task detector.
>

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-15  8:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-14 11:32 Jiayuan Chen
2026-09-14 14:32 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-14 18:36 ` Michal Hocko
2026-09-15  3:35   ` Andrew Morton
2026-09-15  6:57     ` Michal Hocko
2026-09-15  8:13       ` Jiayuan Chen [this message]
2026-09-15  8:23         ` Michal Hocko
2026-09-15  8:44           ` Jiayuan Chen
2026-09-15  9:07             ` Michal Hocko

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