From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261473AbTJ0JqV (ORCPT ); Mon, 27 Oct 2003 04:46:21 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261486AbTJ0JqV (ORCPT ); Mon, 27 Oct 2003 04:46:21 -0500 Received: from smtp1.att.ne.jp ([165.76.15.137]:19152 "EHLO smtp1.att.ne.jp") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261473AbTJ0JqT (ORCPT ); Mon, 27 Oct 2003 04:46:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3cba01c39c6f$141529a0$24ee4ca5@DIAMONDLX60> From: "Norman Diamond" To: "Mudama, Eric" , "'Hans Reiser '" , "'Wes Janzen '" , "'Rogier Wolff '" , "'John Bradford '" , , , "'Pavel Machek '" , "'Justin Cormack '" , "'Vitaly Fertman '" , "'Krzysztof Halasa '" References: <785F348679A4D5119A0C009027DE33C105CDB39B@mcoexc04.mlm.maxtor.com> Subject: Re: Blockbusting news, results get worse Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:34:48 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Eric Mudama wrote: > 1. Pay a premium for longer warranty. I've commented on this already. > 2. Do qualification tests yourself during the first year of operation. Yeah, I need to deliberately damage one block in order to test the firmware, but I don't want to damage multiple blocks and use up the reallocation space. I am a home user, even if I also do programming at work, even if I also volunteer one day each weekend to test Linux. How can I arrange to damage one block on a disk? > 3. Look at what products are being shipped in large volume from OEMs, and > buy the same product yourself. Dell or HP or IBM can't afford to ship > products that don't have the lowest in-the-field failure rates, so buying > what they buy would make sense since they'll run their own tests like #2. I'm not sure how many Dell notebooks you'll have to open to see a Toshiba drive, but I'll bet the number is low. Also do you recognize the name Toshiba as a large maker of notebook PCs, and do you have any guesses as to how many Toshiba notebooks you'll have to open to see a Toshiba drive? Toshiba already reduced their former US 3-year warranties to 1 year and provide 0 warranty directly to customers in Japan. (Maybe they should follow the ideas of a certain dominant software maker and pretend to have a 90-day warranty but in fact renege every time a failure occurs? There would be 0 difference in what needs to be done in software to make up for it.)