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From: "Norman Diamond" <ndiamond@wta.att.ne.jp>
To: "Mudama, Eric" <eric_mudama@Maxtor.com>,
	"'Hans Reiser '" <reiser@namesys.com>,
	"'Wes Janzen '" <superchkn@sbcglobal.net>,
	"'Rogier Wolff '" <R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl>,
	"'John Bradford '" <john@grabjohn.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <nikita@namesys.com>,
	"'Pavel Machek '" <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	"'Justin Cormack '" <justin@street-vision.com>,
	"'Vitaly Fertman '" <vitaly@namesys.com>,
	"'Krzysztof Halasa '" <khc@pm.waw.pl>
Subject: Re: Blockbusting news, results end
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:45:24 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3cbb01c39c6f$17608410$24ee4ca5@DIAMONDLX60> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <785F348679A4D5119A0C009027DE33C105CDB39C@mcoexc04.mlm.maxtor.com>

Eric Mudama wrote:

> If a drive wants to reallocate a block, but due to some temporary
> condition is unable to (vibration, excessive temperature, etc), odds are
> there's no way for that drive to "remember" that it needs to reassign that
> block, so if you reboot the drive or reset it or whatever, you're back at
> square 1.

Bingo.  This is why reallocation at the time of a failed read is also
necessary.  Yes the data are lost, yes the failure needs to be both logged
(once) and displayed to the user (once), yes if an application reads it
again before writing then it will be garbage or zeroes, but get the LBA
sector number moved to a place that is less likely to be unreliable.

Meanwhile software must still make up for defective firmware.


  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-27  9:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-26 18:39 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-27  9:45 ` Norman Diamond [this message]
2003-10-27 10:48   ` Krzysztof Halasa
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-28 16:10 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-28 18:30 ` bill davidsen
2003-10-28 11:31 Norman Diamond
2003-10-27 17:50 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-26  8:49 Norman Diamond
2003-10-26  9:22 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-26 11:25   ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-27 20:58     ` jw schultz
2003-10-27 22:27       ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-27 22:57         ` jw schultz
2003-10-28  2:03           ` jw schultz
2003-10-26 11:01 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-26 12:59   ` Oleg Drokin
2003-10-26 12:05     ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-26 12:39       ` Oleg Drokin
2003-10-26 16:26         ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-26 17:13           ` Oleg Drokin
2003-10-26 18:20             ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-26 19:07               ` Oleg Drokin
2003-10-27 12:44                 ` Vitaly Fertman

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