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Brouwer wrote: > Hi Alejandro, > >>> I wonder about the legal status of such a change. >>> There is ownership of the pages, and a license that allows >>> others to do certain things. >> >> I also wonder about it. We discussed it for several (~3) months, and I >> documented links to the discussion in the commit message: >> >> commit 9f2986c34166085225bb5606ebfd4952054e1657 >> Author: Alejandro Colomar >> Date: Fri Apr 11 02:19:48 2025 +0200 >> >> *, CREDITS: Unify copyright notices >> >> Link: >> Link: > > So I read this last link, and see > > "Don’t change someone else’s copyright notice without their permission > You should not change or remove someone else’s copyright notice unless > they have expressly (in writing) permitted you to do so. This includes > third parties’ notices in pre-existing code." > > The main topic of that link is how one should document new contributions, > and writing "by the contributors of the foo project" is OK for new stuff, > of course provided the new contributor agrees. > In my opinion it is illegal to change existing copyright notices, > unless you get permission from all people involved, which seems unlikely. I agree with Andries. This is also my interpretation, you cannot remove these entries without express permission from the copyright holder. In glibc we did not remove any copyright notices, but *added* under DCO "Copyright, The GNU Toolchain authors." Example: 1 /* Map in a shared object's segments from the file. 2 Copyright (C) 1995-2025 Free Software Foundation, Inc. 3 Copyright The GNU Toolchain Authors. 4 This file is part of the GNU C Library. ... -- Cheers, Carlos.