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From: Bryan Donlan <bdonlan@gmail.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, malware-list@dmesg.printk.net
Subject: Re: fanotify: the fscking all notification system
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:13:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3e8340490906301013k3182093w65d68a0d0c2e19e8@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <22424.1246368155@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:22 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:08:45 EDT, Eric Paris said:
>
>> fanotify provides two things:
>> 1) a new notification system, sorta like inotify, only instead of an
>> arbitrary 'watch descriptor' which userspace has to know how to map back
>> to an object on the filesystem, fanotify provides an open read-only fd
>> back to the original object.  It should be noted that the set of
>> fanotify events is much smaller than the set of inotify events.
>>
>> 2) an access system in which processes may be blocked until the fanotify
>> userspace listener has decided if the operation should be allowed.
>
> I don't care much about virus scanners - but some of us with petabytes of
> disk space to manage could use tis for HSM applications.  The HSM daemon
> could fanotify on the file, notice that the file accessed referred to a
> special "I've been archived" stub/token, and put the file back before
> giving the go-ahead to the process.
>
> The only sticky question - does this happen early enough that the accessing
> process, when un-blocked, will continue through open() and get the *new*
> version of the newly restored file?
>

In that particular case, why not just make it a sparse file (so the
size fields in stat are correct), and put back the original data in
the very same inode?

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-30 17:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-29 20:08 Eric Paris
2009-06-30 13:22 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-06-30 17:13   ` Bryan Donlan [this message]
2009-06-30 17:26   ` Eric Paris
2009-07-07 19:41     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-07-07 20:57       ` Eric Paris
2009-07-01  4:10 ` Matt Helsley
2009-07-11 19:18   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-07-02 15:02 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-07-02 15:22   ` Eric Paris

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