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From: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>
To: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	"seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: "Gao, Chao" <chao.gao@intel.com>,
	"Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>,
	"binbin.wu@linux.intel.com" <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Hunter, Adrian" <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	"kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com"
	<kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Chatre, Reinette" <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
	"Yamahata, Isaku" <isaku.yamahata@intel.com>,
	"Zhao, Yan Y" <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
	"tony.lindgren@linux.intel.com" <tony.lindgren@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 0/1] KVM: TDX: Decrease TDX VM shutdown time
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2025 11:20:05 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3ef581f1-1ff1-4b99-b216-b316f6415318@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a29d4a7f319f95a45f775270c75ccf136645fad4.camel@intel.com>

On 7/12/2025 7:17 AM, Edgecombe, Rick P wrote:
> On Fri, 2025-07-11 at 16:05 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>> Zero the reserved area in struct kvm_tdx_capabilities so that fields added
>>> in
>>> the reserved area won't disturb any userspace that previously had garbage
>>> there.
>>
>> It's not only about disturbing userspace, it's also about actually being able
>> to repurpose the reserved fields in the future without needing *another* flag
>> to tell userspace that it's ok to read the previously-reserved fields.  I care
>> about this much more than I care about userspace using reserved fields as
>> scratch space.
> 
> If, before calling KVM_TDX_CAPABILITIES, userspace zeros the new field that it
> knows about, but isn't sure if the kernel does, it's the same no?
> 
> Did you see that the way KVM_TDX_CAPABILITIES is implemented today is a little
> weird? It actually copies the whole struct kvm_tdx_capabilities from userspace
> and then sets some fields (not reserved) and then copies it back. So userspace
> can zero any fields it wants to know about before calling KVM_TDX_CAPABILITIES.
> Then it could know the same things as if the kernel zeroed it.
> 
> I was actually wondering if we want to change the kernel to zero reserved, if it
> might make more sense to just copy caps->cpuid.nent field from userspace, and
> then populate the whole thing starting from a zero'd buffer in the kernel.

+1 to zero the whole buffer of *caps in the kernel.

current code seems to have issue on the 
caps->kernel_tdvmcallinfo_1_r11/kernel_tdvmcallinfo_1_r12/user_tdvmcallinfo_1_r12, 
as KVM cannot guarantee zero'ed value are returned to userspace.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-14  3:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-11  9:51 Adrian Hunter
2025-06-11  9:51 ` [PATCH V4 1/1] KVM: TDX: Add sub-ioctl KVM_TDX_TERMINATE_VM Adrian Hunter
2025-06-16  3:40   ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-18  5:50     ` Adrian Hunter
2025-06-18  6:00       ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-18  8:33         ` Adrian Hunter
2025-06-19  0:33           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-19 11:12             ` Adrian Hunter
2025-06-20 14:24               ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-20 16:14                 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-20 16:26                   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-23 20:36                   ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-23 21:39                     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-23 23:35                       ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-20 18:59                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-20 21:21                   ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-20 23:34                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-21  3:00                       ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-23 16:23                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-23 20:22                           ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-23 22:51                             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-18 22:07         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-23 20:40   ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-25 22:25 ` [PATCH V4 0/1] KVM: TDX: Decrease TDX VM shutdown time Sean Christopherson
2025-06-26 15:58   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-26 19:52     ` Adrian Hunter
2025-07-11  8:55     ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-11 13:05       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-11 13:40         ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-11 14:19           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-11 22:31             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-11 22:54               ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-11 23:04                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-11 23:00             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-11 23:05               ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-11 23:17                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-14  3:20                   ` Xiaoyao Li [this message]
2025-07-14 13:56                     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-14 15:06                       ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-16  9:22             ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-18 15:35               ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-17  9:14             ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-07-18 14:36               ` Sean Christopherson

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