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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Xin Li <xin@zytor.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/fred: Correct speculative safety in fred_extint()
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2026 16:46:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3f9765e1-8f02-409f-813c-24ff378f7a90@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260106152008.GZ3707891@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 06/01/2026 3:20 pm, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 06, 2026 at 01:15:04PM +0000, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>> This is why we have array_access_nospec() in Xen, so you can't separate the
>> safety calculation from the array access.
>>
>> The observant reader might notice that the result of reading sysvec_table[] is
>> also subject to memory predictions.  Aren't CPUs wonderful...
>>
>> In practice, even having array_index_nospec() part of the array access
>> expression is no guarantee of avoiding spilling to the stack.  KASAN is liable
>> to hide a function call behind the scenes, while UBSAN is very good at
>> inserting it's own unsafe range checks around objects it knows the size of.
>> Aren't compilers wonderful...
> Yeah, then again nobody should be running *SAN kernels in production,
> right ;-)

Aren't distros wonderful...

~Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-06 16:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-06 13:15 Andrew Cooper
2026-01-06 15:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-06 16:46   ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2026-01-06 17:06     ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-01-07  0:15       ` Andrew Cooper
2026-02-23 10:25 ` [tip: x86/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Andrew Cooper

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