From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
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linux-kselftest <linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: KVM: Document guest-visible compatibility expectations
Date: Tue, 19 May 2026 11:41:26 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3f9d731c3d26b0367600f1069e6425099bc34eac.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABgObfaM-JtNn2MuYXaiadQnLfAhTEaoHAcTG9=J6LkMcQCJ3A@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, 2026-05-13 at 18:24 +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>
> > See commit https://git.kernel.org/torvalds/c/49a1a2c70a7f which adds a
> > new guest-visible feature in revision 3, but allowed userspace to
> > restore the old behaviour by setting it to revision 2. All my patch
> > above does, is make it possible to set it to revision 1 as
> > well. Because https://git.kernel.org/torvalds/c/d53c2c29ae0d previously
> > changed the behaviour and bumped the default to 2 *without* allowing
> > userspace to restore the prior behaviour, and we've been carrying a
> > *revert* of that patch.
> >
> > Why would we *not* accept such a patch?
>
> Agreed. Even ignoring your revert, there's no reason why any upgrade
> past 49a1a2c70a7f has to be from after d53c2c29ae0d.
So where do we go from here?
I assume you'll be taking this Documentation patch via the KVM tree?
But what about the actual fix at
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260511113558.3325004-2-dwmw2@infradead.org/
This is a simple and unintrusive bug fix to make KVM/arm64 follow the
"common sense" requirement that the doc patch codifies, apparently
being rejected with the rather bizarre claim that KVM has no *need* to
maintain guest-visible compatibility across host kernel changes.
So... what next? Is one of the other KVM/arm64 maintainers going to
speak up? Paolo would you consider taking the fixes through your tree
directly?
Does Arm not actually *care* whether AArch64 is considered a stable and
mature platform for KVM hosting?
We don't have CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL any more, do we? Or perhaps we could
mark it such. Is CONFIG_STAGING the right thing, for unstable things
which might violate the normal maturity expectations of the kernel?
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-19 10:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-11 8:57 David Woodhouse
2026-05-11 15:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-11 16:38 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-11 16:56 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-11 17:53 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-13 8:42 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-05-13 9:24 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-13 12:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-13 13:03 ` Eric Auger
2026-05-13 13:57 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-13 16:24 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-13 18:26 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-19 10:41 ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2026-05-19 11:11 ` Will Deacon
2026-05-19 11:44 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-19 12:13 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-19 12:38 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-05-19 12:56 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-05-19 13:24 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-19 12:59 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-19 13:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-19 14:13 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-19 21:10 ` Oliver Upton
2026-05-19 21:58 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-19 22:57 ` Oliver Upton
2026-05-19 23:33 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-20 17:47 ` Oliver Upton
2026-05-20 18:29 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-19 12:42 ` David Woodhouse
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