From: Stephen Satchell <satch@fluent-access.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: goodbye
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 21:46:21 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010407214043.00b63100@mail.fluent-access.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010407210224.A1022@debian.org>
In-Reply-To: <20010408125621.C14550@higherplane.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0104031800030.14090-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva> <20010404012102Z131724-406+7418@vger.kernel.org> <20010408023228.L805@mea-ext.zmailer.org> <20010404012102Z131724-406+7418@vger.kernel.org> <9ao861$f1$1@ns1.clouddancer.com> <20010408020720.55CC8683B@mail.clouddancer.com> <20010408125621.C14550@higherplane.net>
At 09:02 PM 4/7/01 -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
>Not always an option. There are many places in the world in which your
>ISP is a monopoly. And even in your simplistic view of the world, there
>are many places in the United States where you are held captibe by not
>having more than one local ISP. That's even more true of broadband
>connections. Monopoly service is the rule there, not the exception.
Concur. One reason I started up my own sendmail for outgoing mail was
because Pacific Bell Internet (in its various brand names) refused to close
up open relays, even when their large clients ran spam relay servers. When
ORBS caused my mail to be blocked to the Linux Kernel list because of this,
I complained to "technical support". Their response was for me to sue ORBS
for causing my mails to be blocked! When asked when PBI was going to close
up the mail relay from their customers' open servers, they said "never."
I had broadband access with them. Fortunately PBI was clueless enough that
I could run my own outgoing mail server and get connectivity back. It took
nine months before I could move off of them.
Other contributors may not be as fortunate -- I've heard about ISPs that
block all SMTP traffic not involving their mail servers. When they are the
only ISP in town, that makes for a bad situation.
I also expect nothing to come from this off-topic discussion, so this will
most likely be the last you hear from me on this subject.
Satch
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-04-08 4:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2001-04-03 21:01 ` goodbye Rik van Riel
2001-04-04 1:14 ` goodbye Michael Peddemors
2001-04-07 23:32 ` goodbye Matti Aarnio
2001-04-08 2:07 ` goodbye Colonel
2001-04-08 2:56 ` goodbye john slee
2001-04-08 4:02 ` goodbye Joseph Carter
2001-04-08 13:22 ` goodbye Jeff Mcadams
2001-04-08 13:22 ` goodbye David Woodhouse
2001-04-08 15:41 ` goodbye Joseph Carter
2001-04-08 13:26 ` goodbye Rogier Wolff
2001-04-08 19:15 ` goodbye Ben Ford
2001-04-08 4:46 ` Stephen Satchell [this message]
2001-04-08 4:09 ` goodbye Ralf Baechle
2001-04-08 4:17 ` goodbye David Fries
2001-04-12 21:31 ` goodbye Mike Fedyk
2001-04-08 5:58 ` goodbye Graham Murray
2001-04-08 6:19 ` goodbye Aaron Lehmann
2001-04-08 10:58 ` goodbye Olaf Titz
2001-04-09 4:33 ` goodbye Rik van Riel
2001-04-09 19:30 ` goodbye Alan Cox
2001-04-09 4:51 ` goodbye David S. Miller
2001-04-09 5:50 ` goodbye Rik van Riel
2001-04-09 22:00 ` goodbye Matti Aarnio
2001-04-09 22:00 ` goodbye Rik van Riel
2001-04-09 23:40 ` goodbye Joseph Carter
2001-04-10 0:46 ` goodbye Rik van Riel
2001-04-09 6:47 ` goodbye Richard Gooch
2001-04-09 12:58 ` goodbye Billy Harvey
2001-04-09 17:58 ` goodbye || alternatives David
2001-04-08 5:10 ` goodbye kumon
2001-04-08 5:31 ` goodbye kumon
2001-04-08 10:22 ` goodbye Matti Aarnio
2001-04-08 13:56 ` goodbye Rogier Wolff
2001-04-08 18:00 ` goodbye Davide Libenzi
2001-04-08 22:10 ` goodbye David Woodhouse
2001-04-09 19:12 ` goodbye Alan Cox
2001-04-09 19:36 ` goodbye Rogier Wolff
2001-04-08 11:50 ` goodbye kumon
2001-04-09 19:20 ` [OT] goodbye Michael Peddemors
2001-04-09 21:34 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-04-09 22:23 ` Matti Aarnio
2001-04-09 22:58 ` David
2001-04-03 21:56 Goodbye Matthew Fredrickson
2001-04-03 22:21 ` Goodbye Ion Badulescu
2001-04-09 14:22 goodbye Wayne.Brown
2001-04-09 14:28 ` goodbye David Woodhouse
2001-04-09 17:57 ` goodbye Stephen E. Clark
2001-04-09 15:12 goodbye Wayne.Brown
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