From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 22 May 2001 10:57:53 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 22 May 2001 10:57:43 -0400 Received: from dsl-64-128-37-73.telocity.com ([64.128.37.73]:6667 "EHLO nic.osagesoftware.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 22 May 2001 10:57:37 -0400 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010522105643.00d1d380@mail.osagesoftware.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:57:34 -0400 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: David Relson Subject: Final Warning [ was: ECN is on! ] In-Reply-To: <3B0A7523.8641A688@sgi.com> In-Reply-To: <20010522131031.C5947@mea-ext.zmailer.org> <15114.18990.597124.656559@pizda.ninka.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org At 10:18 AM 5/22/01, Steve Modica wrote: >Perhaps it's none of my business, but it doesn't seem very sporting to >just turn something on that breaks stuff and say "you had fair >warning". Why not shut it back off, issue a statement saying it works >now and will be re-enabled on June 10th or something, and everyone must >do thus and so or they will break on that day? > >Vague things like "it'll be turned on real soon now" or ASAP really mean >"never" since admins always have things with real deadlines at the top >of their list. I'd suggest something like: Final Warning. ECN is being turned on NOW. If your firewall doesn't support ECN, this will be the last message that gets through to you from us. Such a message will have the interesting characteristic of being the last message received. This will make it obvious why no further messages are arriving. David -------------------------------------------------------- David Relson Osage Software Systems, Inc. relson@osagesoftware.com Ann Arbor, MI 48103 www.osagesoftware.com tel: 734.821.8800