From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261877AbUBQHml (ORCPT ); Tue, 17 Feb 2004 02:42:41 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262598AbUBQHml (ORCPT ); Tue, 17 Feb 2004 02:42:41 -0500 Received: from mail-03.iinet.net.au ([203.59.3.35]:8417 "HELO mail.iinet.net.au") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S261877AbUBQHmk (ORCPT ); Tue, 17 Feb 2004 02:42:40 -0500 Message-ID: <4031C5E5.9050406@cyberone.com.au> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 18:42:29 +1100 From: Nick Piggin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040122 Debian/1.6-1 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marc Lehmann CC: John Bradford , Jeff Garzik , Linus Torvalds , viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk, Linux kernel Subject: Re: UTF-8 practically vs. theoretically in the VFS API References: <04Feb13.163954est.41760@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca> <200402150006.23177.robin.rosenberg.lists@dewire.com> <20040214232935.GK8858@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> <200402150107.26277.robin.rosenberg.lists@dewire.com> <20040216183616.GA16491@schmorp.de> <4031197C.1040909@pobox.com> <200402161948.i1GJmJi5000299@81-2-122-30.bradfords.org.uk> <20040216201610.GC17015@schmorp.de> In-Reply-To: <20040216201610.GC17015@schmorp.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Marc Lehmann wrote: >On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 07:48:19PM +0000, John Bradford wrote: > >>Quote from Jeff Garzik : >>None of this is a real problem, if everything is set up correctly and >>bug free. Unfortunately the Just Works thing falls apart in the, >>(frequent), instances that it's not :-(. >> > >And this is the whole point. > >BTW, to people trying to explain some properties of UTF-8 to me. I don't >think ad-hominem attacks like assuming that I don't understand UTF-8 >(without any indication that this is so) are useful. > >The point here is that the kernel does, in a very narrow interpretation, >not support the use of UTF-8, because proper support of UTF-8 means that >no illegal byte sequences will be produced. > > So does the kernel support the English language? Does your email client?