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From: "Shem Multinymous" <multinymous@gmail.com>
To: "Bjorn Helgaas" <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>
Cc: "linux kernel mailing list" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Matt Domsch" <Matt_Domsch@dell.com>,
	"Brown, Len" <len.brown@intel.com>,
	"Henrique de Moraes Holschuh" <hmh@debian.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] DMI: Decode and save OEM String information
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:42:10 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41840b750607270942l7a53010du1fabcf2a4b492789@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200607271010.53489.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>

Hi,

On 7/27/06, Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> wrote:
> I always thought that ACPI was supposed to describe everything that
> (a) consumes resources or requires a driver and (b) is not enumerable
> by other hardware standards such as PCI.
>
> If that's true, isn't it a BIOS defect if this embedded controller isn't
> described via ACPI?

The ThinkPad ACPI tables do list the relevant IO ports (0x1600-0x161F)
as reserved, but provide no way to discern what's behind them. Other
machines have different hardware on the same ports.

BTW, I should clarify that this embedded controller interface (used by
hdaps and tp_smapi) is different than the standard ACPI EC interface,
and goes through different IO ports.


> it seems like the ideal way forward
> would be to get the BIOS fixed so you could claim the device with PNP
> for future ThinkPads, and the table of OEM strings would not require
> ongoing maintenance.

This is unrealistic. The hdaps and tp_smapi drivers support dozens of
ThinkPad models, each with a different BIOS.

For the tp_smapi driver, AFAIK the only completely safe alternative to
this patch is a frequently-updated whitelist of over a hundred models,
identified by the existing DMI attributes.

  Shem

  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-27 16:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-27 13:47 Shem Multinymous
2006-07-27 16:10 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2006-07-27 16:42   ` Shem Multinymous [this message]
2006-07-28  3:27     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2006-07-28 12:49       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2006-07-28 18:37         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2006-07-28 20:52           ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-28 21:08             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2006-07-28 22:07               ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-29 12:55 ` Shem Multinymous
2006-07-29 16:29   ` Carl-Daniel U. Hailfinger
2006-07-29 17:09     ` Shem Multinymous
2006-08-02 12:19     ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-02 10:39 ` Pavel Machek

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