From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261407AbVFAPOC (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Jun 2005 11:14:02 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261390AbVFAPOC (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Jun 2005 11:14:02 -0400 Received: from mailhub.fokus.fraunhofer.de ([193.174.154.14]:41427 "EHLO mailhub.fokus.fraunhofer.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261407AbVFAPNI (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Jun 2005 11:13:08 -0400 From: Joerg Schilling Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 17:11:50 +0200 To: schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de, kraxel@suse.de Cc: toon@hout.vanvergehaald.nl, mrmacman_g4@mac.com, ltd@cisco.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dtor_core@ameritech.net, 7eggert@gmx.de Subject: Re: OT] Joerg Schilling flames Linux on his Blog Message-ID: <429DD036.nail7BF7MRZT6@burner> References: <26A66BC731DAB741837AF6B2E29C10171E60DE@xmb-hkg-413.apac.cisco.com> <20050530093420.GB15347@hout.vanvergehaald.nl> <429B0683.nail5764GYTVC@burner> <46BE0C64-1246-4259-914B-379071712F01@mac.com> <429C4483.nail5X0215WJQ@burner> <87acmbxrfu.fsf@bytesex.org> In-Reply-To: <87acmbxrfu.fsf@bytesex.org> User-Agent: nail 11.2 8/15/04 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Gerd Knorr wrote: > Joerg Schilling writes: > > > If you use /dev/ entries to directly address SCSI targets, then you > > are relying on on assumptions that cannot be granted everywhere. > > > > Cdrecord is portable and this needs to implement a way that is portable > > and does not rely on nonportable assumptions like yours. > > Not really. Yes, it runs on different operating systems. But to send > the SCSI commands to the device you have OS-specific code in there, > simply because it's handled in different ways on Solaris / Linux / > whatever OS. You could make the device addressing OS-specific as well > instead of expecting everyone in the world follow the Solaris model, > that would make life a bit easier for everyone involved. This is not the Solaris model.... I did define this model 19 years ago when I did write the first Generic SCSI driver at all. Adaptec indepentently did develop ASPI 2 years later and did chose the same address model. Nearly all OS use this kind (or a very similar model) internaly inside the kernel or the basic SCSI address routines. Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily