From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261390AbVFAPpR (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Jun 2005 11:45:17 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261432AbVFAPnW (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Jun 2005 11:43:22 -0400 Received: from mailhub.fokus.fraunhofer.de ([193.174.154.14]:31974 "EHLO mailhub.fokus.fraunhofer.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261433AbVFAPm4 (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Jun 2005 11:42:56 -0400 From: Joerg Schilling Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 17:41:39 +0200 To: lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca, kraxel@suse.de Cc: toon@hout.vanvergehaald.nl, schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de, mrmacman_g4@mac.com, ltd@cisco.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dtor_core@ameritech.net, 7eggert@gmx.de Subject: Re: OT] Joerg Schilling flames Linux on his Blog Message-ID: <429DD733.nail7BF915O9X@burner> References: <26A66BC731DAB741837AF6B2E29C10171E60DE@xmb-hkg-413.apac.cisco.com> <20050530093420.GB15347@hout.vanvergehaald.nl> <429B0683.nail5764GYTVC@burner> <46BE0C64-1246-4259-914B-379071712F01@mac.com> <429C4483.nail5X0215WJQ@burner> <87acmbxrfu.fsf@bytesex.org> <20050531190556.GK23621@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> In-Reply-To: <20050531190556.GK23621@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> User-Agent: nail 11.2 8/15/04 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen) wrote: > > Addressing IDE devices (try to get a real SCSI burner these days) > > using scsi host+target+lun is sort-of silly IMHO ... > > Well I remember the first time I saw devfs running, I thought "Wow > finally I have a way to find the disc that is scsi id 3 on controller 0 > even if I add a device at id 2 after setting up the system", something > most unix systems have always had, but linux made hard (you had to > somehow figure out which id mapped to which /dev/sd* entry, which from a > users perspective wasn't trivial, and of course keeping your fstab in > sync with the mapping was a pain). What you explain is exactly the reason, why libscg maps the /dev/ names to something stable. Then some people claimed that there was a new way in Linux but I could not find a machine running this stuff..... When I checked again, this still had not become "standard" on Linux but I got the impression that somebody was developing a new system. So I gave up. If someone will develop a useful system that eventually appears as a standard on all Linux systems it may make sende to add support into libscg. Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily