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From: Julien Grall <julien@xen.org>
To: "Jürgen Groß" <jgross@suse.com>, "Jan Beulich" <jbeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] xen/evtchn: read producer index only once
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 11:50:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42e15cc4-56d1-b34b-d97e-d579e771788a@xen.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d0ca217c-ecc9-55f7-abb1-30a687a46b31@suse.com>



On 08/02/2021 10:59, Jürgen Groß wrote:
> On 08.02.21 11:51, Jan Beulich wrote:
> Yes, but I don't see an urgent need to fix that, as there would
> be thousands of accesses in the kernel needing a fix. A compiler
> tearing a naturally aligned access into multiple memory accesses
> would be rejected as buggy from the kernel community IMO.

I would not be so sure. From lwn [1]:

"In the Linux kernel, tearing of plain C-language loads has been 
observed even given properly aligned and machine-word-sized loads.)"

And for store tearing:

"Note that this tearing can happen even on properly aligned and 
machine-word-sized accesses, and in this particular case, even for 
volatile stores. Some might argue that this behavior constitutes a bug 
in the compiler, but either way it illustrates the perceived value of 
store tearing from a compiler-writer viewpoint. [...] But for properly 
aligned machine-sized stores, WRITE_ONCE() will prevent store tearing."

Cheers,

[1] https://lwn.net/Articles/793253/#Load%20Tearing

> 
> 
> Juergen

-- 
Julien Grall

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-08 12:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-06 10:49 [PATCH 0/7] xen/events: bug fixes and some diagnostic aids Juergen Gross
2021-02-06 10:49 ` [PATCH 1/7] xen/events: reset affinity of 2-level event initially Juergen Gross
2021-02-06 11:20   ` Julien Grall
2021-02-06 12:09     ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-06 12:19       ` Julien Grall
2021-02-06 10:49 ` [PATCH 2/7] xen/events: don't unmask an event channel when an eoi is pending Juergen Gross
2021-02-08 10:06   ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-08 10:21     ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08 10:15   ` Ross Lagerwall
2021-02-06 10:49 ` [PATCH 3/7] xen/events: fix lateeoi irq acknowledgment Juergen Gross
2021-02-06 10:49 ` [PATCH 4/7] xen/events: link interdomain events to associated xenbus device Juergen Gross
2021-02-08 23:26   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2021-02-09 13:55   ` Wei Liu
2021-02-06 10:49 ` [PATCH 5/7] xen/events: add per-xenbus device event statistics and settings Juergen Gross
2021-02-08 23:35   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2021-02-06 10:49 ` [PATCH 6/7] xen/evtch: use smp barriers for user event ring Juergen Gross
2021-02-08  9:38   ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-08  9:41     ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08  9:44   ` Andrew Cooper
2021-02-08  9:50     ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-08 10:23       ` Andrew Cooper
2021-02-08 10:25         ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08 10:31           ` Andrew Cooper
2021-02-08 10:36         ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-08 10:45           ` Andrew Cooper
2021-02-06 10:49 ` [PATCH 7/7] xen/evtchn: read producer index only once Juergen Gross
2021-02-08  9:48   ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-08 10:41     ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08 10:51       ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-08 10:59         ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08 11:50           ` Julien Grall [this message]
2021-02-08 11:54           ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-08 12:15             ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08 12:23               ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-08 12:26                 ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08 11:40   ` Julien Grall
2021-02-08 11:48     ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08 12:03       ` Julien Grall
2021-02-06 18:46 ` [PATCH 0/7] xen/events: bug fixes and some diagnostic aids Julien Grall
2021-02-07 12:58   ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08  9:11     ` Julien Grall
2021-02-08  9:41       ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08  9:54         ` Julien Grall
2021-02-08 10:22           ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08 10:40             ` Julien Grall
2021-02-08 12:14               ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08 12:16                 ` Julien Grall
2021-02-08 12:31                   ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08 13:09                     ` Julien Grall
2021-02-08 13:58                       ` Jürgen Groß
2021-02-08 14:20                         ` Julien Grall
2021-02-08 14:35                           ` Julien Grall
2021-02-08 14:50                           ` Jürgen Groß

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