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From: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
To: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	Luben Tuikov <luben_tuikov@adaptec.com>,
	andrew.patterson@hp.com, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	"Moore, Eric Dean" <Eric.Moore@lsil.com>,
	jejb@steeleye.com, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: ioctls, etc. (was Re: [PATCH 1/4] sas: add flag for locally attached PHYs)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:26:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <435A05DD.7040003@s5r6.in-berlin.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43596F16.7000606@pobox.com>

Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Luben Tuikov wrote:
>>>>> Examples are DMA boundary and s/g limit, 
>>>>> among others.  When confronted with this, you proposed an 
>>>>> additional hardware information struct which duplicates 
>>>>> Scsi_Host_Template.
>>>>
>>>> I told you -- I have this in the struct asd_ha_struct and it was merely
>>>> a downplay that I didn't include the same thing in struct 
>>>> sas_ha_struct.
>>
>> Here is the commit in question:
>> http://linux.adaptec.com/sas/git/?p=linux-2.6-sas.git;a=commit;h=785747ddc631f7618d728a377346965f7db2256a 
> 
> This effectively illustrates the wrong thing to do:  duplicating 
> information that's already in Scsi_Host_Template.
> 
> Just use Scsi_Host_Template in the LLDD and see where that goes.

Will cmd_per_lun, sg_tablesize, max_sectors, dma_boundary, 
use_clustering ever have to be adjusted specifically for a SAS hardware?

Obviuosly none of this is required _at the moment_. IOW neither the 
introduction of a sas_ha_hw_profile nor a pass-through of 
scsi_host_template down to SAS interconnect drivers is required right 
now. So why do one or the other now? Isn't it a sensible rule to not 
solve problems now which do not exist yet?

(I guess Luben only introduced sas_ha_hw_profile to demonstrate that 
there will never be an absolute requirement for scsi_host_template --- 
in its present form --- to be visible in a SAS transport layer <-> SAS 
interconnect driver interface. And there are certainly more alternatives 
to these two approaches.)
-- 
Stefan Richter
-=====-=-=-= =-=- =-==-
http://arcgraph.de/sr/

  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-22  9:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <91888D455306F94EBD4D168954A9457C048F0E34@nacos172.co.lsil.com>
     [not found] ` <20051020160155.GA14296@lst.de>
     [not found]   ` <4357CB03.4020400@adaptec.com>
     [not found]     ` <20051020170330.GA16458@lst.de>
     [not found]       ` <4357F7DE.7050004@adaptec.com>
     [not found]         ` <1129852879.30258.137.camel@bluto.andrew>
2005-10-21  0:46           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-21  5:09             ` Mike Christie
2005-10-21  5:41             ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-10-21  6:19               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-21 18:37                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 17:48             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 18:04               ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-10-21 18:12                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 18:20                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-10-22  2:30                     ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-10-22  2:54                       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-22  3:53                         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-22 17:14                           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-22 17:49                             ` Francois Romieu
2005-10-22 16:51                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 18:18               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-21 18:50                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 18:54                   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-21 19:13                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 19:23                       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-21 22:20                         ` Stefan Richter
2005-10-21 19:22                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 19:39                       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-21 20:41                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 21:12                           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-21 21:24                             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 21:41                               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-21 22:14                                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 22:43                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-22  9:26                                     ` Stefan Richter [this message]
2005-10-22 17:23                                       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-22 10:42                                     ` Stefan Richter
2005-10-22 10:58                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-10-22 15:28                                         ` Sergey Panov
2005-10-22 17:19                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-10-22 17:38                                             ` Sergey Panov
2005-10-24 15:18                                               ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-22 18:27                                             ` Alan Cox
2005-10-24 13:51                                             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-24 15:41                                               ` Alan Cox
2005-10-24 15:14                                                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-24 15:59                                                   ` Regala
2005-10-24 16:13                                                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-22 17:30                                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-22 18:19                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-22 17:49                                         ` Stefan Richter
2005-10-24 22:09                                           ` ioctls, etc. (was Re: [PATCH 1/4] sas: add flag for locally attachedPHYs) David Lang
2005-10-24 23:09                                             ` Stefan Richter
2005-10-22 11:12                                       ` David Lang
2005-10-22 17:39                                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-22 17:41                                         ` Stefan Richter
2005-10-22 17:51                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-10-22 18:21                                             ` Stefan Richter
2005-10-22 18:39                                             ` Sergey Panov
2005-10-22 13:27                                       ` ioctls, etc. (was Re: [PATCH 1/4] sas: add flag for locally attached PHYs) Stefan Richter
2005-10-22 16:09                                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 19:41                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-10-21 19:48                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 19:54                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-10-21 20:05                             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 19:46                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-10-21 19:50                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 20:31 Salyzyn, Mark

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